Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS)
-
I'm assuming all the other Magpies posters are at the park, I felt like I was in a Northland love in during this thread.
-
@reprobate said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
Fakatava is going to be good I reckon. Smith-like - not as good obviously - in his speed to rucks and flat passing, and a bit of vision to chuck the cut-out for the try too. Seen him show a bit of hungus previously, but none of that on display here.
I'm not claiming or predicting he'll be as good as Smith, but how would you know he won't be? He's only 20; 12 years younger than Smith. Still lots of time to improve. He's only just started his professional career.
@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@reprobate said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
Fakatava is going to be good I reckon. Smith-like - not as good obviously - in his speed to rucks and flat passing, and a bit of vision to chuck the cut-out for the try too. Seen him show a bit of hungus previously, but none of that on display here.
I'm not claiming or predicting he'll be as good as Smith, but how would you know he won't be? He's only 20; 12 years younger than Smith. Still lots of time to improve. He's only just started his professional career.
You've misunderstood, I meant today he was Smith-like but not as good.
-
@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@reprobate said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
Fakatava is going to be good I reckon. Smith-like - not as good obviously - in his speed to rucks and flat passing, and a bit of vision to chuck the cut-out for the try too. Seen him show a bit of hungus previously, but none of that on display here.
I'm not claiming or predicting he'll be as good as Smith, but how would you know he won't be? He's only 20; 12 years younger than Smith. Still lots of time to improve. He's only just started his professional career.
You've misunderstood, I meant today he was Smith-like but not as good.
@reprobate Ah, okay, my bad. The "going to be" in your post must have confused me.
-
@J77 said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@kev Yep, big red will be in a black shirt sooner rather than later. The guy doesn’t stop.
The TV footage only showed a glimpse, but after Rene did that quick tap after a full arm penalty, made an okay run then threw an offload to a team mate who got isolated and HB win a penalty. It looked like Big Red went and put his arm around Rene and had a couple of words.
In my view it wasn’t a great decision by Rene given where they were on the field and it put his team under a bit of pressure.
Not sure what was said but the image was good.
@ACT-Crusader yea noticed that too...I'd say he just said that wasn't what we were supposed to be doing at this end of the park.
High risk, low reward in that part of the pitch...Ranger 3 or 4 years back may have gotten away with it with that extra yard of pace and power, but yesterday put us under the pump.
Despite that, best game of the season by Ranger.
Red seems a big personality but in the right way too.
-
@ACT-Crusader yea noticed that too...I'd say he just said that wasn't what we were supposed to be doing at this end of the park.
High risk, low reward in that part of the pitch...Ranger 3 or 4 years back may have gotten away with it with that extra yard of pace and power, but yesterday put us under the pump.
Despite that, best game of the season by Ranger.
Red seems a big personality but in the right way too.
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
-
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
@Billsy111 said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
Ili had a great game in the absence of Jonah Lowe (our best performing back this year by some distance despite what some Canes fans imagine). He wouldn't look out of place another level up.
Fomai also made the most of his opportunities on Lowe's usual wing too.
Visinia kicked a bit too much for a Fijian wing, one was decent but a couple were poor.
@reprobate said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
Fakatava is going to be good I reckon. Smith-like - not as good obviously - in his speed to rucks and flat passing, and a bit of vision to chuck the cut-out for the try too. Seen him show a bit of hungus previously, but none of that on display here.
TBH, I think he went too far the other way (still had an awesome match) and didn't snipe a few times when I think he should have.
McClutchie was solid moving the team around the park in the second half.
Sapsford was ok, he's big and direct, but Toala is a class above.
Baker has to go, he's an old body not up to this level anymore. Makene, Toala, and McNicol would all be better bets than Baker.
-
Oh for our basic skills to have been up to scratch last night, if so we may have been telling a different story this morning.
Can’t fault the fight in our lads, but when we’re dropping balls, missing touch and throwing laboured passes you’re not going to get the rewards in high pressure matches like that.
Hawke’s Bay looked a bit rattled in that first half, but we missed the opportunity to stick the knife in the throat. Polish that shit up and we beat Otago next week. Got to get back on the horse and aim for a home semi final at the very least. We’re certainly capable...
-
Oh for our basic skills to have been up to scratch last night, if so we may have been telling a different story this morning.
Can’t fault the fight in our lads, but when we’re dropping balls, missing touch and throwing laboured passes you’re not going to get the rewards in high pressure matches like that.
Hawke’s Bay looked a bit rattled in that first half, but we missed the opportunity to stick the knife in the throat. Polish that shit up and we beat Otago next week. Got to get back on the horse and aim for a home semi final at the very least. We’re certainly capable...
-
@J77 If, if, if ... That counts for nothing, because you could say the same thing about Hawke's Bay's first half. If Hawke's Bay had played a better first half, the points differential would have been bigger than it actually was, last night.
@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@J77 If, if, if ... That counts for nothing, because you could say the same thing about Hawke's Bay's first half. If Hawke's Bay had played a better first half, the points differential would have been bigger than it actually was, last night.
It’s an opinion. We both see things from our own teams perspective and comment as such. The game transpired as it was and there’s nothing any of us can do to change it. I’m deliberately using the “if, if, if” routine just because I can..
-
@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@J77 If, if, if ... That counts for nothing, because you could say the same thing about Hawke's Bay's first half. If Hawke's Bay had played a better first half, the points differential would have been bigger than it actually was, last night.
It’s an opinion. We both see things from our own teams perspective and comment as such. The game transpired as it was and there’s nothing any of us can do to change it. I’m deliberately using the “if, if, if” routine just because I can..
-
@Stargazer it’s a free world, nothing wrong with that..
-
@Stargazer it’s a free world, nothing wrong with that..
@J77 I guess it’s frustrating because when your the master of your own errors , you make life that much easier for the opposing team ..straight drops under no pressure and not finding touch are inexcusable in the modern game .
Problem is we been doing this all season , we got away with it against Southland .
On saying that we have got Temo Mayanavanua for one more game before he joins Fijian team as they head to the Northern Hemisphere.
Only one injury concern which is in and around Blake Hohaia . -
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
@Billsy111 said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
Ili has good quick feet and a great offload. Occasionally tries it too much, still needs to work on when to put it away a little bit, but great skills - reminds me of NMS.
Not a big man though, which will work against him at the higher level. -
@Billsy111 said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
Ili has good quick feet and a great offload. Occasionally tries it too much, still needs to work on when to put it away a little bit, but great skills - reminds me of NMS.
Not a big man though, which will work against him at the higher level.@reprobate Ili's age will probably work against him, too. He's 29.
-
@ACT-Crusader yea noticed that too...I'd say he just said that wasn't what we were supposed to be doing at this end of the park.
High risk, low reward in that part of the pitch...Ranger 3 or 4 years back may have gotten away with it with that extra yard of pace and power, but yesterday put us under the pump.
Despite that, best game of the season by Ranger.
Red seems a big personality but in the right way too.
@taniwharugby Rene was excellent. He plays on the edge so you are going to get risky play, but Northland needed it.
@Billsy111 I thought Northland played well also, just lacked that finishing class.
-
@J77 I guess it’s frustrating because when your the master of your own errors , you make life that much easier for the opposing team ..straight drops under no pressure and not finding touch are inexcusable in the modern game .
Problem is we been doing this all season , we got away with it against Southland .
On saying that we have got Temo Mayanavanua for one more game before he joins Fijian team as they head to the Northern Hemisphere.
Only one injury concern which is in and around Blake Hohaia .@Steven-Harris yea we are creating opportunities but ruining them with silly errors, then letting opposition punish us, whereas we aren't able to take advantage of their errors.
Last night I think we created enough opportunities to be ahead at the break, and probably win too, but ultimately we were not upto it.
Can only imagine how we would look if we still had J-Deb and Goodhue, given our 10/12 axis has struggled all season so far.
-
I'm assuming all the other Magpies posters are at the park, I felt like I was in a Northland love in during this thread.
@Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
I'm assuming all the other Magpies posters are at the park, I felt like I was in a Northland love in during this thread.
Don't have an internet connect at the flat so can't comment whilst watching games from there!
-
@Billsy111 said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
@taniwharugby I thought Northland played bloody well, gave the Bay a real physical game and never gave up. I don't know what other people think but Stacey Ili is playing himself in Super Rugby contention.
Ili had a great game in the absence of Jonah Lowe (our best performing back this year by some distance despite what some Canes fans imagine). He wouldn't look out of place another level up.
Fomai also made the most of his opportunities on Lowe's usual wing too.
Visinia kicked a bit too much for a Fijian wing, one was decent but a couple were poor.
@reprobate said in Hawkes Bay vs Northland (RS):
Fakatava is going to be good I reckon. Smith-like - not as good obviously - in his speed to rucks and flat passing, and a bit of vision to chuck the cut-out for the try too. Seen him show a bit of hungus previously, but none of that on display here.
TBH, I think he went too far the other way (still had an awesome match) and didn't snipe a few times when I think he should have.
McClutchie was solid moving the team around the park in the second half.
Sapsford was ok, he's big and direct, but Toala is a class above.
Baker has to go, he's an old body not up to this level anymore. Makene, Toala, and McNicol would all be better bets than Baker.
