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Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021)

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  • ChrisC Chris

    Some disappointing Performances from some Blues ABs in this game
    Laulala,Hodgmen,Patty T, Akira
    Clarke too lacked some spark today
    Sotutu got through a large amount of work not always productive,

    Dalton P was massive
    Reiko even though his outside vision is not there his pace in defence was very good today he shut a lot down from behind.
    Plummer was good
    Robinson and Ofa big impact of the bench

    Jacobsen,Taukeiheo,McKenzie, Dodds,Ah Kuoi,Tupaea
    We’re massive for the chiefs
    Trask also I though went well

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    @chris agreed except Plummer was not good. Blues looked much better once Faiane came on.

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      @bovidae aidan was very close to being a ab a few years ago .playing awesome again

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      @cpt-kumera said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

      @bovidae aidan was very close to being a ab a few years ago .playing awesome again

      Ironically the year his replacement (Big Karl) made the ABs. Ross was lost for the season due to friendly fire from Ta'avao but the Chiefs scrum was very good that season.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @yeetyaah Because Stevenson missed the tackle?

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        @stargazer said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

        @yeetyaah Because Stevenson missed the tackle?

        It was Trask that missed the crucial on Robinson.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @stargazer said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

          @yeetyaah Because Stevenson missed the tackle?

          It was Trask that missed the crucial on Robinson.

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          @bovidae yeah that was my bad, I was on the other side of the stadium so didn't really see it properly.

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            @cpt-kumera said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

            @bovidae aidan was very close to being a ab a few years ago .playing awesome again

            Ironically the year his replacement (Big Karl) made the ABs. Ross was lost for the season due to friendly fire from Ta'avao but the Chiefs scrum was very good that season.

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            @bovidae Ross was great. Chiefs scrum was surprisingly good. Honestly if the Chiefs had a decent line out they'd be a better team. I'm feeling a bit confident going ahead now.

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              Nice finish Chiefees

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @chris agreed except Plummer was not good. Blues looked much better once Faiane came on.

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                @kiwimurph said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                @chris agreed except Plummer was not good. Blues looked much better once Faiane came on.

                I thought Plummer was ok considering Black inside him was poor,I will have a closer look when I watch the replay

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  @bovidae Ross was great. Chiefs scrum was surprisingly good. Honestly if the Chiefs had a decent line out they'd be a better team. I'm feeling a bit confident going ahead now.

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                  @yeetyaah I'll watch a replay of the game to see how the scrum went, but I think Nick White spent plenty of time this week setting scrums.

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                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                    @bovidae yeah that was my bad, I was on the other side of the stadium so didn't really see it properly.

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                    @yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                    @bovidae yeah that was my bad, I was on the other side of the stadium so didn't really see it properly.

                    I thought Stevenson had already gone missing in defence in that sequence of play when Caleb Clarke broke down his wing and it was left to Weber (and someone else?) to do the work in cover.

                    That said, Trask could learn a bit about attitude on defence from DMac. Sometimes he's very good and sometimes he's not.

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                      Is Josh Lord out for the season ? I think that with a few additional kgs he could be awsome.

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                        Is Josh Lord out for the season ? I think that with a few additional kgs he could be awsome.

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                        @cgrant The most up-to-date info is here: https://www.thesilverfern.com/squads

                        The answer is: " sidelined for a couple of weeks"

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                          Bahaha fuck the comments on social media are saaaaaalty about the flat pass in the lead up to the match winner.

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                          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                            Is a deliberate knock down not a yellow anymore? Blatant from Dalton.

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                            @yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                            Is a deliberate knock down not a yellow anymore? Blatant from Dalton.

                            I must have missed when they made them an automatic yellow like Justin Marshall seemed so convinced it was.

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                              @kiwimurph said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                              @chris agreed except Plummer was not good. Blues looked much better once Faiane came on.

                              I thought Plummer was ok considering Black inside him was poor,I will have a closer look when I watch the replay

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                              @chris said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                              @kiwimurph said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                              @chris agreed except Plummer was not good. Blues looked much better once Faiane came on.

                              I thought Plummer was ok considering Black inside him was poor,I will have a closer look when I watch the replay

                              Fair. Black was not good.

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                                The absolute best thing about this game was that we won and that (most of) the Blues players who I want to see play well, did do so. Both Paps and Robinson were awesome, and I think that Rieko is starting to get the defensive issues sorted as a 13 (which is fucking hard). If Rieko can sort out when to distribute and do it well, he could be an absolute weapon at 13 for the ABs.

                                For the Chiefs, I was really impressed by the work rate of the second rowers - both of whom are really 6s, and I was happily surprised by the performance of the scrum. The lineout is still a fucking mess, and our exits are a shambles. I can't help but wonder whether we'd be doing Trask a favor by putting him at 15, but either way I'd like it if he showed bigger effort on defense - he lets through some easy ones.

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                                  Without rewatching that, in the world of competent officials Blues won.

                                  The GCT obstruction is pretty ludicrous. The maul laws are built around legalised obstruction. To not give that makes a mockery of a mockery. Granted, if ref had blown real time, slightly harder to complain.

                                  As for final awarded non-try, on a close watch the ball was plainly marginally forward. It wasn't clear and obvious, and it wasn't much forward, but it WAS forward.

                                  So the ref misses a forward pass because it wasn't clear and obvious, and awards a try. But because the forward pass wasn't clear and obvious (as it wasn't in the first place) the TMO can't overturn it.

                                  Almost a paradox.

                                  Two wrongs do not make a right.

                                  The rules need to be amended to state that if there is a mistake, even if not clear and obvious, the decision is overturned.

                                  Having said that, apalling performance by the Blue. The fact they were the legitimate winners is not excuse for the huge dropping of standards.

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                                    The absolute best thing about this game was that we won and that (most of) the Blues players who I want to see play well, did do so. Both Paps and Robinson were awesome, and I think that Rieko is starting to get the defensive issues sorted as a 13 (which is fucking hard). If Rieko can sort out when to distribute and do it well, he could be an absolute weapon at 13 for the ABs.

                                    For the Chiefs, I was really impressed by the work rate of the second rowers - both of whom are really 6s, and I was happily surprised by the performance of the scrum. The lineout is still a fucking mess, and our exits are a shambles. I can't help but wonder whether we'd be doing Trask a favor by putting him at 15, but either way I'd like it if he showed bigger effort on defense - he lets through some easy ones.

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                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                                    The absolute best thing about this game was that we won and that (most of) the Blues players who I want to see play well, did do so. Both Paps and Robinson were awesome, and I think that Rieko is starting to get the defensive issues sorted as a 13 (which is fucking hard). If Rieko can sort out when to distribute and do it well, he could be an absolute weapon at 13 for the ABs.

                                    For the Chiefs, I was really impressed by the work rate of the second rowers - both of whom are really 6s, and I was happily surprised by the performance of the scrum. The lineout is still a fucking mess, and our exits are a shambles. I can't help but wonder whether we'd be doing Trask a favor by putting him at 15, but either way I'd like it if he showed bigger effort on defense - he lets through some easy ones.

                                    From an AB perspective, on the Chiefs side Cane, and Jacobson in particular, looked good in forward. Tuapea looked very promising in backs. DMac and ALB seemed good in parts.

                                    For Blues Paps test quality performance, and Robinson on fire when he arrived. AIoane and Sotutu both a bit off boil. Christie very sharp. RIoane seems to me to run away from support still. Thought Perofeta was classy.

                                    Wonder what Foxy and Fozzie made of it?

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                                      Don't think it was forward. See that kind of floating pop offload as a player is going to ground all the time. Wasn't forward out of the hands, even if it might have floated forwards a few cm due to momentum.

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                                        Don't think it was forward. See that kind of floating pop offload as a player is going to ground all the time. Wasn't forward out of the hands, even if it might have floated forwards a few cm due to momentum.

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                                        @mofitzy_ it didn't even appear to travel forward on the drone replay.

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                                        • pukunuiP pukunui

                                          @yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                                          Is a deliberate knock down not a yellow anymore? Blatant from Dalton.

                                          I must have missed when they made them an automatic yellow like Justin Marshall seemed so convinced it was.

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                                          @pukunui said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                                          @yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

                                          Is a deliberate knock down not a yellow anymore? Blatant from Dalton.

                                          I must have missed when they made them an automatic yellow like Justin Marshall seemed so convinced it was.

                                          Yeah he was being an egg most of the game. A lot tend to end in a yellow due to the nature of it - last gasp attempt to stop a try scoring attack. This wasn't that.

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