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Blues v Hurricanes

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #329

    There was a moment late in the game that I found interesting. It summed up some of the lack or leadership out there for the Canes

    74 mins gone, they need two tries. They are awarded a penalty and everyone stands around as the clock is ticking. Zero urgency.
    IWL is holding the ball waiting for someone to make a decision.
    Finally someone says to go for the corner. Leger is not far from the ball but is gently dawdling towards the ball... more time wasted.
    Eventually Rayasi rushes up past multiple other players, snatches the ball off IWL and kicks it into touch

    How is it that Rayasi is the only Canes player that understood the match situation??

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    • WingerW Winger

      @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

      Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

      I thought J Savea played well enough

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      @winger said in Blues v Hurricanes:

      @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

      Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

      I thought J Savea played well enough

      That reminds me of something I thought during the game. Canes players were often being subbed at the very time they were finding their way in the game and making positive contributions.
      There was a short spell there were Jules looked the best I had seen him play since coming back from France and he was promptly taken off.
      It just seemed weird.

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        Captain’s a massive bell-end when it comes to post match interviews, isn’t he.

        That stop at the end by Ioane was fucking powerful. Massive strength.

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        #331

        @hooroo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

        Captain’s a massive bell-end when it comes to post match interviews, isn’t he.

        That stop at the end by Ioane was fucking powerful. Massive strength.

        He's the best in the country at that style of turnover

        I can't think of anyone else who gets them regularly. If you go back a few years Lousi had a knack of getting them often too

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        • K kev

          @kirwan actually Nock was really good. Fast to ruck, crisp passes hitting the runners. Start of the second half put up two poor kicks and got subbed. Ruru came on and then gave away 3 points straight away but played pretty well. No doubt he is a more aggressive runner but for me Nock starts. A lot less errors, and better pass. The team runs a lot better when he is the link man. As TR says his game has really developed.

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          Steven Harris
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          #332

          @kev just 2 poor high kicks from Nock does not constitute a poor game ,sure he was quiet but at least he did not make some glaring errors that were made by several in the first 40 ,even Ruru gave away a penalty when he only just arrived on the pitch ,I will however concede he added some impact with his running and on defence
          Hearing Nock could be on the move and is looking at other options,he’s gone from being the number 1 choice a year ago ,to number 3 ,shunted from pillar to post ..I actually think the Canes could be a good fit for Nock 🤔😆..the coaching staff at the Blues are doing him or the 3 halfbacks any favours whatsoever.

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          • WingerW Winger

            @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

            Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

            I thought J Savea played well enough

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            #333

            @winger said in Blues v Hurricanes:

            @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

            Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

            I thought J Savea played well enough

            Not good enough for 7 carries for 15 metres he’s up there with Blackwell and Prinseep
            The most amazing thing is Proctor topped the tackle count with 10/10

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              @kev just 2 poor high kicks from Nock does not constitute a poor game ,sure he was quiet but at least he did not make some glaring errors that were made by several in the first 40 ,even Ruru gave away a penalty when he only just arrived on the pitch ,I will however concede he added some impact with his running and on defence
              Hearing Nock could be on the move and is looking at other options,he’s gone from being the number 1 choice a year ago ,to number 3 ,shunted from pillar to post ..I actually think the Canes could be a good fit for Nock 🤔😆..the coaching staff at the Blues are doing him or the 3 halfbacks any favours whatsoever.

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              #334

              @steven-harris said in Blues v Hurricanes:

              the coaching staff at the Blues are doing him or the 3 halfbacks any favours whatsoever.

              For me that's the key point there, been the same for a few seasons now.

              Could argue no one has claimed the jersey, but by the same token keep chopping and changing gives no one the opportunity to get a combo going and get thier game going (same 8 and 10 have started each game so far haven't they?)

              I've been plenty critical of Nock so im not saying he should start cos he isn't in top form either (although think he has the best game of all 3) Ruru is hot and cold, Christie is just a bit meh to me (but seems who Mcdonald prefers when fit)

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @steven-harris said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                the coaching staff at the Blues are doing him or the 3 halfbacks any favours whatsoever.

                For me that's the key point there, been the same for a few seasons now.

                Could argue no one has claimed the jersey, but by the same token keep chopping and changing gives no one the opportunity to get a combo going and get thier game going (same 8 and 10 have started each game so far haven't they?)

                I've been plenty critical of Nock so im not saying he should start cos he isn't in top form either (although think he has the best game of all 3) Ruru is hot and cold, Christie is just a bit meh to me (but seems who Mcdonald prefers when fit)

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                @taniwharugby on point ..!

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                  @winger said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

                  I thought J Savea played well enough

                  Not good enough for 7 carries for 15 metres he’s up there with Blackwell and Prinseep
                  The most amazing thing is Proctor topped the tackle count with 10/10

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                  #336

                  @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  @winger said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  @mikey07 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  Love how the Canes selections came back to bite them, what’s the saying don’t change a winning formula, Blackwell once again showing how rubbish he is imagine running out of the line and missing the tackle!!. I think it’s time to drop the Savea experiment and give Visignia or Patafelo a game and see how they go you might aswell our seasons over.

                  I thought J Savea played well enough

                  Not good enough for 7 carries for 15 metres he’s up there with Blackwell and Prinseep
                  The most amazing thing is Proctor topped the tackle count with 10/10

                  Those stats are obviously tutae. Savea made more than 15 metres in one run.

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                    #337

                    ESPN and SANZAAR stats - Julian Savea
                    Runs: 6
                    Metres run: 60

                    Rugbypass stats - Julian Savea
                    Runs (they call it ball carries): 7
                    Metres run (they call it ball carry metres): 15

                    The problem isn't the Bus' metres, the problem is Rugbypass.
                    To everyone who (still) doesn't know: Rugbypass stats and rankings are terrible. Don't use them!

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      ESPN and SANZAAR stats - Julian Savea
                      Runs: 6
                      Metres run: 60

                      Rugbypass stats - Julian Savea
                      Runs (they call it ball carries): 7
                      Metres run (they call it ball carry metres): 15

                      The problem isn't the Bus' metres, the problem is Rugbypass.
                      To everyone who (still) doesn't know: Rugbypass stats and rankings are terrible. Don't use them!

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                      mikey07
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                      #338

                      @stargazer ah yea I completely forgot about the Sanzaar stats site.

                      Poor Proctor loses his top tackle count

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        ESPN and SANZAAR stats - Julian Savea
                        Runs: 6
                        Metres run: 60

                        Rugbypass stats - Julian Savea
                        Runs (they call it ball carries): 7
                        Metres run (they call it ball carry metres): 15

                        The problem isn't the Bus' metres, the problem is Rugbypass.
                        To everyone who (still) doesn't know: Rugbypass stats and rankings are terrible. Don't use them!

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                        #339

                        @stargazer said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                        ESPN and SANZAAR stats - Julian Savea
                        Runs: 6
                        Metres run: 60

                        Rugbypass stats - Julian Savea
                        Runs (they call it ball carries): 7
                        Metres run (they call it ball carry metres): 15

                        The problem isn't the Bus' metres, the problem is Rugbypass.
                        To everyone who (still) doesn't know: Rugbypass stats and rankings are terrible. Don't use them!

                        That sounds more like it Julian Savea made one bust from a Ruck and made 40 metres in that one Run.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @winger well enough isn’t good enough though. Or is that what we’ve come to expect these days?

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                          @canes4life said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                          @winger well enough isn’t good enough though. Or is that what we’ve come to expect these days?

                          I didn't have an issue at all with the way he played. The main issue is the first 5. Even more so than Blackwell. Until this is addressed the team will continue to struggle

                          The Highlanders match shows what a quality first can do

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