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Chiefs v Blues

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #21

    <p>well hopefully with minimal changes the Blues can start to get some continuity and partnerships going, as you say, they have the raw ingredients.</p>

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    • No QuarterN Offline
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      No Quarter
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      #22

      <p>Prediction: All those changes will hurt the Chiefs momentum. Blues by 1 - 12.</p>

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      • SammyCS Offline
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        #23

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="570196" data-time="1459975503">
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        <p>Prediction: All those changes will hurt the Chiefs momentum. Blues by 1 - 12.</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>Further to that prediction, this thread will be at 10 pages by this time next week. Full of <strike>Chiefs fans</strike> Crucial crying about refereeing decisions that went against them.</p>

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        • CrucialC Offline
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          <p>'Discussing' not 'crying about' ;)</p>

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          • UncoU Offline
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            #25

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="570196" data-time="1459975503">
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            <p>Prediction: All those changes will hurt the Chiefs momentum. Blues by 1 - 12.</p>
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            <p> </p>
            <p>Yup, Chiefs are the underdogs going into this game.</p>

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            • KiwiMurphK Offline
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              #26

              <p>To confirm the above - it is actually Jaimee Nutbrown's debut Super Rugby refereeing assignment - i'd much prefer Pollock in the middle and Nutbrown as AR (Pollock is AR for this game). </p>

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              • HoorooH Offline
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                <p>Who did he play for in Super Rugby? Highlanders? Did he have a turn with the Chiefs too?</p>

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                • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                  <p>Good point. According to Wikipedia Nutbrown played 22 times for the Chiefs between 06 and 08. Also played for the Crusaders (not the Highlanders).</p>

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                  • CrucialC Offline
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                    #29

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="570231" data-time="1459986739">
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                    <p>To confirm the above - it is actually Jaimee Nutbrown's debut Super Rugby refereeing assignment - i'd much prefer Pollock in the middle and Nutbrown as AR (Pollock is AR for this game). </p>
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                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Yeah. Ex-Crusaders and Chiefs. Stints with Canterbury and BOP.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>I know they don't do neutral refs these days but an ex player reffing his own franchise leaves things open for accusations of bias in both directions.</p>

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                    • HoorooH Offline
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                      <p>This sucks. It's his first gig and he will have to show just how nuetral he is by being kinder to the Blues than he would be to the Chiefs! Bloody excellent!</p>

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                      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                        #31

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="570250" data-time="1459989549">
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                        <p>This sucks. It's his first gig and he will have to show just how nuetral he is by being kinder to the Blues than he would be to the Chiefs! Bloody excellent!</p>
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                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Having seen Nutbrown ref ITM Cup I am more worried about his general ability than bias to be honest.</p>

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                          #32

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="570250" data-time="1459989549">
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                          <p>This sucks. It's his first gig and he will have to show just how nuetral he is by being kinder to the Blues than he would be to the Chiefs! Bloody excellent!</p>
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I agree. It is unnecessarily difficult for the guy.</p>
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                          <p>Didn't he run touch in the Chiefs/Crusaders game? I think it was that game that Justin Marshall was laughing in the comms as Ellis went to give the touchie a mouthful and realised it was a former team mate.</p>

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                          • No QuarterN Offline
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                            No Quarter
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                            <p>Let's just take a minute to be thankful that Marshall never became a referee.</p>

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                              mariner4life
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                              <p>tug a jersey? red card. stand offside? not material, see it a million times a game. </p>

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                              • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                                <p>Pretty big crowd expected, 14,000 presold for this one. </p>

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                                  <p>I can't see why Nutbrown should be liable to bias - it's not like any other refs have just appeared out of thin air! They all come from somewhere and were probably pretty passionate about rugby there which gave them an interest....</p>

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                                  • CrucialC Offline
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                                    #37

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="570357" data-time="1460024291">
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                                    <p>I can't see why Nutbrown should be liable to bias - it's not like any other refs have just appeared out of thin air! They all come from somewhere and were probably pretty passionate about rugby there which gave them an interest....</p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>I think it is more the perception of bias making things difficult that we are commenting on. Surely if he was to make a tough call favouring the Chiefs there would be comments made? Or maybe he will try too hard to not favour them.</p>
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                                    <p>It is only because he has played at higher levels that he will get so much more focus compared to other refs</p>

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                                    • nzzpN Offline
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                                      #38

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="570357" data-time="1460024291">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>I can't see why Nutbrown should be liable to bias - it's not like any other refs have just appeared out of thin air! They all come from somewhere and were probably pretty passionate about rugby there which gave them an interest....</p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Followign on from Crucial's response - it is like neutral refs.  Refs from NZ shouldn't be biased towards teh ABs, but they put in neutrals to avoid the appearnce of a potential conflict of interest.</p>

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                                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                        <p>just look at Justin Marshall and how he tries to appear impartial most of the time!</p>

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="570201" data-time="1459977087"><p>
                                          Further to that prediction, this thread will be at 10 pages by this time next week. Full of <del>Chiefs fans</del> Crucial crying about refereeing decisions that went against them.</p></blockquote>
                                          <br>
                                          The irony of Cantabs ...

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