SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes
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@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
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@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
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@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
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@canes4life And the Canes re-sign the coaches for two more years.
I don't think the officiating has cost the Canes any games. What is mostly missing is good decision-making, execution and discipline. That's due to lack of good leadership, inexperience of some players, and some players just not being good enough. The blame for that is mostly on the coaches, who sign the wrong players and select the wrong match-day 23 each week. This is a problem at all levels in the Canes, you saw it in the U20s, too.
The whole organisation needs a spring clean.
A lot of it comes down to decision making which comes back to leadership. If there are two minutes to go, I don't know why you pass to Kirifi that far from the ruck. I would have thought pick and goes were the option as there is less chance of conceding a penalty. Then there is Kirifi's decision to try to hold onto the ball. He just has to release it. The Chiefs shouldn't be able to counter attack because our fullback should already be back deep waiting for a turnover.
It's quite amazing that with a weak scrum, bad halves combo and getting done at the breakdown that we came as close as we did. I think all we won was the lineout. I think it ultimately comes down to just not having the cattle in the squad. Last season we survived on individual brilliance. Right now we have no TJ or Ardie.
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@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
Goosen looked very off this game not his usual energetic self
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@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
Goosen looked very off this game not his usual energetic self
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@canes4life And the Canes re-sign the coaches for two more years.
I don't think the officiating has cost the Canes any games. What is mostly missing is good decision-making, execution and discipline. That's due to lack of good leadership, inexperience of some players, and some players just not being good enough. The blame for that is mostly on the coaches, who sign the wrong players and select the wrong match-day 23 each week. This is a problem at all levels in the Canes, you saw it in the U20s, too.
The whole organisation needs a spring clean.
@stargazer the organisation is a joke. It’s been hard enough being a Canes fan all these years but this is a new low. Even worse is the Canes have essentially pulled the big middle finger to the fans by extending the coaches contracts for another two years. They are rewarding poor performance which will manifest into low standards going forward, something that I’m not willing to pay money for until it changes. #hollandout #bunchofclowns
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I am liking the script for these Chiefs games.
I actually have some sympathy for the Canes as this is what the Chiefs experienced last season, but the Chiefs lost at the death to a JB penalty last year, so not too much...
@bovidae yeah the teams have almost swapped from last year, it’s crazy.
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Chiefs a bit lucky to scrape in through front row dominance and Dmac's trusty boot. Really missed Luke Jacobson punch tonite with too much stutter stuff from the wingers needed. Aidan Ross had great all round game as well as pushing his opposite back. Hope Tiatia Trask and Luke are back from now on.
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A lot of it comes down to decision making which comes back to leadership. If there are two minutes to go, I don't know why you pass to Kirifi that far from the ruck. I would have thought pick and goes were the option as there is less chance of conceding a penalty. Then there is Kirifi's decision to try to hold onto the ball. He just has to release it. The Chiefs shouldn't be able to counter attack because our fullback should already be back deep waiting for a turnover.
It's quite amazing that with a weak scrum, bad halves combo and getting done at the breakdown that we came as close as we did. I think all we won was the lineout. I think it ultimately comes down to just not having the cattle in the squad. Last season we survived on individual brilliance. Right now we have no TJ or Ardie.
@hydro11 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
A lot of it comes down to decision making which comes back to leadership. If there are two minutes to go, I don't know why you pass to Kirifi that far from the ruck. I would have thought pick and goes were the option as there is less chance of conceding a penalty. Then there is Kirifi's decision to try to hold onto the ball. He just has to release it. The Chiefs shouldn't be able to counter attack because our fullback should already be back deep waiting for a turnover.
It's quite amazing that with a weak scrum, bad halves combo and getting done at the breakdown that we came as close as we did. I think all we won was the lineout. I think it ultimately comes down to just not having the cattle in the squad. Last season we survived on individual brilliance. Right now we have no TJ or Ardie.
Some good points.
Canes, perhaps very luckily, found themselves ahead with about 8 to play.
For me, keep the pill and run the clock down is the mantra. Kick only where absolutely necessary, e.g. within 30m of line. Avoid penalties at all costs.
Instead, several speculators. 🤯
And Kirifi holds on in Chiefs half rather than just letting go.
Canes seemed to think they were playing in Blue.
Could have been a contender!
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@damo said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
Captains referrals are awesome...said no one
That should have been a PK for offside. If the Chiefs captain was paying attention they wouldn't have needed the scrum PK.
If the ref had been paying attention they wouldn't have needed a captains referral.
@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@damo said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
Captains referrals are awesome...said no one
That should have been a PK for offside. If the Chiefs captain was paying attention they wouldn't have needed the scrum PK.
If the ref had been paying attention they wouldn't have needed a captains referral.
O'Keeffe has to take as much blame for ignoring that missed lineout offside. It was so obvious to see for those of us in the crowd.
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Who would have thought the Chiefs would be here, staring at the prospect of a final. I thought the Chiefs were due to lose a game and whilst I always had faith, I thought this might be the game. I was silent with my hands on my face for the final 5 minutes at the game, until DMac got the kick. Messy game though. Would be nice to have Trask back.
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@gt12 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
These crap exits drive me crazy
Frustrating eh. There was one exit in the 1st half where the ruck was inside the 22 but Weber passed again, and the next ruck was outside so they couldn't kick the ball out on the full.
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@stargazer the organisation is a joke. It’s been hard enough being a Canes fan all these years but this is a new low. Even worse is the Canes have essentially pulled the big middle finger to the fans by extending the coaches contracts for another two years. They are rewarding poor performance which will manifest into low standards going forward, something that I’m not willing to pay money for until it changes. #hollandout #bunchofclowns
@canes4life said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@stargazer the organisation is a joke. It’s been hard enough being a Canes fan all these years but this is a new low. Even worse is the Canes have essentially pulled the big middle finger to the fans by extending the coaches contracts for another two years. They are rewarding poor performance which will manifest into low standards going forward, something that I’m not willing to pay money for until it changes. #hollandout #bunchofclowns
I’m the same but unfortunately my cousin is coming down next week and I was pressured into going with her as she loves the Canes and never been to a game. If I had to pay for the tickets I definitely wouldn’t be going.
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@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
Goosen looked very off this game not his usual energetic self
@mikey07 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@kirwan said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
@canes4life Rayasi worries me, he disappears for large parts of games.
As opposed to Savea who disappears for entire games?
See what I mean about Rayasi, he is just not putting himself into the game, I will be suprised if he starts next week after that performance, though I not sure who else we got as I would rather it not Savea either.
Rayasi was far more involved that Goosen in this game
Goosen looked very off this game not his usual energetic self
I thought that too Mikey. Regardless this seems to be norm for Rayasi, which pisses me off because he got so much going for him.
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Kirifi really does look like a poor mans Ardie Savea. He has been ineffective, Boshier showing why he should have been on the plane last year.
@canes4life said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
Kirifi really does look like a
poorshort mans Ardie Savea. He has been ineffective, Boshier showing why he should have been on the plane last year.Fixed it for ya.
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@gt12 said in SRA Round 9: Chiefs v Hurricanes:
These crap exits drive me crazy
Frustrating eh. There was one exit in the 1st half where the ruck was inside the 22 but Weber passed again, and the next ruck was outside so they couldn't kick the ball out on the full.
We’ve been lucky to get away with a terrible line out and a poor exit game. Some of those kicks and options from Weber had me ready to throw something at the TV.
The scrum is going well though, which is neat, and our two young 6/locks are going well. We should be in good shape for next year with BBBR back.
We might/should final which is a great result. We’ll lose but overall its been a great season in comparison to last year.
Do we still have a negative points differential? I think we still did prior to the game which really shows how close we’ve been to us having everything go the wrong way as it did last year
