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Waratahs v Hurricanes

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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @nta said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

    Not short enough.

    I haven't seen much of them this year and I know that they lost everything, but are they actually that bad? I mean skills, players, tactics, etc.

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    @snowy

    Just confirming what @nta said - experience was a big issue this year

    Last year the NSW admin made some incorrect decisions around covid. They decided it was a good time to spend less than other teams on player salaries. That resulted in lots of players with a half decent cv leaving

    So what is left is a mixture of talented youngsters and some people that don't belong at this level. Those talented young players have no one to learn off and are making very public errors.
    If they can retain these guys and recruit some old heads they'll turn it around in a year or two.

    I would rate them as being about as good as a mid level NPC side. They might have an upset in them at some stage.. unlikely though

    Tizzano was one of their better players, a tackling machine. Him not playing is a big blow

    Canes 25+

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      Cheers. It was a bit confusing as to why they had turned to custard so much without having seen them play.

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        Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield, and Toala still not in the 23.

        I'm starting to think they've already decided not to re-sign Toala, or Toala has decided to go somewhere else (maybe Rakete-Stones, too?).

        https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/team-named-to-take-on-waratahs-in-sydney/


        Edited to add: Why was Toala not allowed to play for Hastings in the Nash Cup Final (because of "Hurricanes duties"), if they don't even give him game time off the bench? What a f*ckwits.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

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          Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield, and Toala still not in the 23.

          I'm starting to think they've already decided not to re-sign Toala, or Toala has decided to go somewhere else (maybe Rakete-Stones, too?).

          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/team-named-to-take-on-waratahs-in-sydney/


          Edited to add: Why was Toala not allowed to play for Hastings in the Nash Cup Final (because of "Hurricanes duties"), if they don't even give him game time off the bench? What a f*ckwits.

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          @stargazer said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

          Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield

          Hard to carry a specialist 12 on the bench when Leger is already there as the backup 10

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @stargazer said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

            Wow, Laumape immediately left out of the squad; PU-J & Proctor midfield

            Hard to carry a specialist 12 on the bench when Leger is already there as the backup 10

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            @duluth If they'd had named Toala on the bench instead of Patafilo, they'd have had 10 cover as well.

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              Tahs have been plucky the last month, and I expect them to be plucky again this weekend.

              But they just don't have the class to match it with top opposition. They are fielding a fair few glorified clubbies, who toil away but never really impact the game.

              The one to watch is Izzy Perese at 13, a Wallaby smokey who has come via the Reds and Brisbane Broncos. Quick, physical, good hands.

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                Team management insisted the decision to rest the in-form Laumape this week was made before he told them on Monday night he was heading to France at the end of SRTT.
                

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125103265/super-rugby-hurricanes-unveil-new-midfield-duo-as-departing-ngani-laumape-omitted-for-waratahs

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                  I would have thought Aso was the obvious outside back reserve as he could cover centre and wing. Jules into centre doesn't seem right...

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    I would have thought Aso was the obvious outside back reserve as he could cover centre and wing. Jules into centre doesn't seem right...

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                    @bovidae Is Aso injured? Don't think I've seen him this year.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @bovidae Is Aso injured? Don't think I've seen him this year.

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                      @tim I think he has been playing club rugby.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @bovidae Is Aso injured? Don't think I've seen him this year.

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                        @tim He is playing club rugby in Wellington. Every week. Not injured, just like Toala and Visinia.

                        Edited to add that there are rumours that Aso has signed with a Japanese club.

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                          Did the Canes publish a list of which players are travelling to Sydney?

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                          • DuluthD Duluth
                            Team management insisted the decision to rest the in-form Laumape this week was made before he told them on Monday night he was heading to France at the end of SRTT.
                            

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125103265/super-rugby-hurricanes-unveil-new-midfield-duo-as-departing-ngani-laumape-omitted-for-waratahs

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                            @duluth said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                            Team management insisted the decision to rest the in-form Laumape this week was made before he told them on Monday night he was heading to France at the end of SRTT.
                            

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125103265/super-rugby-hurricanes-unveil-new-midfield-duo-as-departing-ngani-laumape-omitted-for-waratahs

                            I could be giving the Hurricanes coaches too much credit here, but they probably had a good idea it was coming, and decided to plan for the future a little, regardless.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Did the Canes publish a list of which players are travelling to Sydney?

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                              @bovidae No, they didn't.

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                                Happy with the team, however would have rathered Roigard over Taumateine.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @bovidae Is Aso injured? Don't think I've seen him this year.

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                                  @tim yeah, I would have had Aso in there before Julian and Patafilo but I guess he's heading overseas. 🙂

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                                    Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

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                                      @bones said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                                      Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

                                      Hasn't he started every game? And isn't this most likely just rotation given the Tahs are the worst team in the comp?

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        I would have thought Aso was the obvious outside back reserve as he could cover centre and wing. Jules into centre doesn't seem right...

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                                        @bovidae said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                                        I would have thought Aso was the obvious outside back reserve as he could cover centre and wing. Jules into centre doesn't seem right...

                                        They haven't selected Aso since the Hurricanes last match of SRA 2020 when he bizarrely kept running over the touchline and spilling regulation passes, and I don't blame them as Vince basically cost the Hurricanes 3 certain tries during that match.

                                        I watched Vince play in NPC last year, he's just not very good, and he's injured quite a bit, pretty sure he's only been fit since last month.

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                                          @bones said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                                          Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

                                          Hasn't he started every game? And isn't this most likely just rotation given the Tahs are the worst team in the comp?

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                                          @frye said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                                          @bones said in Waratahs v Hurricanes:

                                          Hey Lomax, great decision to head to the canes eh?

                                          Hasn't he started every game? And isn't this most likely just rotation given the Tahs are the worst team in the comp?

                                          The Hurricanes are the worst NZ team in the competition thus hold the unwanted Wooden Spoon Trophy that also adorns their opponents Trophy Cabinet. Can they risk rotating given the significance of each competition's dunce outfits matching up against each other?

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