Force v Chiefs

Donsteppa

Chiefs will have a much happier flight home now. Perth is a long way to go for a one week turnaround for a loss..

Anonymous

Chiefs will have a much happier flight home now. Perth is a long way to go for a one week turnaround for a loss..

Bet the hotel staff are pleased.

Rebound

@kev exactly and then the tmo says it's fine nothing wrong. No surprise seeing he wanted to penalise Lord for tackling someone in the midrift

kev

@yeahtheboys said in Force v Chiefs:

@antipodean Weber was good I thought? Dmac more comfortable at 15 tho he may need some more time at 10, he seems to get 10% of the time everyone else gets to find their feet

Thought Webber was ok 2. But DMAC has no consistency to his game. Not someone to rely on on 1st. Prefer him at Fullback or as sub.

Yeetyaah

Got a text from the Mrs asking me if screaming at the TV is necessary at 2am

Bones

@rebound said in Force v Chiefs:

@bones really. Sending off people for made up penalties and then making up more penalties too keep the Chiefs under pressure

Jacobson was on the wrong side slowing it down, nothing made up there at all except for Weber trying to pretend it was Boshier. Answer this, if there was no offence by Jacobson, why has Weber already tried to line up Boshier to take the fall? Why was Jacobson hiding?

Bones

@mofitzy_ said in Force v Chiefs:

Ref was riding the Chiefs hard. Softest red card in history for Jacobson.

I'm really wondering what people are watching if that's the softest they've seen...

Bones

@yeetyaah said in Force v Chiefs:

Got a text from the Mrs asking me if screaming at the TV is necessary at 2am

Sorry to hear about your breakup.

mofitzy_

@bones
He was nowhere near the ball.

Bones

@mofitzy_ said in Force v Chiefs:

@bones
He was nowhere near the ball.

He was on the wrong side, slowing it down. Because he's there, force players can't clean, Boshier gets on the ball. It's pretty simple (as just one example of why he's offending). Where the ball is doesn't matter.

sparky

NZ teams 5, Aussie teams 0. How long until the one of the Aussie teams win on these?

Bones

@sparky one week.

mofitzy_

@bones
CBA watching a replay because we won but on first watch I don't think he was impeding anyone. Hopefully someone can pull up a screenshot with perspective lines or a slow mo gif.

Bones

@mofitzy_ said in Force v Chiefs:

@bones
CBA watching a replay because we won but on first watch I don't think he was impeding anyone. Hopefully someone can pull up a screenshot with perspective lines or a slow mo gif.

We'll never know what him and his illegal play impacted. I mean, who cares if the pass goes forward if there's no defenders in sight, right? Does a defender being offside not matter if the player he's marking drops it?

Hooroo

@bones said in Force v Chiefs:

@mofitzy_ said in Force v Chiefs:

Ref was riding the Chiefs hard. Softest red card in history for Jacobson.

I'm really wondering what people are watching if that's the softest they've seen...

It was a soft red but a pretty easy yellow and so if two yellows make a red...

Chiefs were fuggin lucky not to come second. Hard watch this morning.

Crazy Horse

What's this talk about Chiefs not making the final because they didn't get a bonus point? Am I missing something or are Chief fans being negative Nellie's again?

hydro11

@crazy-horse said in Force v Chiefs:

What's this talk about Chiefs not making the final because they didn't get a bonus point? Am I missing something or are Chief fans being negative Nellie's again?

3 NZ teams could end up with 5 wins, then it is down to bonus points. In reality, I think it is unlikely. The Reds and the Brumbies should win a couple of games each and I could see one of the other Aussie teams nicking a win here or there.

Crazy Horse

@hydro11 yeah I suspected that was the case. Too early to be writing the Chiefs off I reckon.

Crucial

Massive difference in reffing styles across the Ta$man if this team of 4 was anything to go by.
1st YC comes out of thin air and was simply an alpha male attempt from the ref to show control. Can't say it was 'wrong' just that if he was in charge of the Saders/Brumbies game it would have been 12 vs 13 after 20 minutes.
Warnings are a tool to stop deliberate slipping of standards in defending your line. One penalty offence will often lead to another under advantage just because the ref suddenly has a perception bias and is looking for the attack to get the advantage he is offering. When nothing is cynical or foul play give them a chance to get it right before waving cards.

The other huge difference was the ref and TMO relationship. TMO seemed to be running the game in tandem giving constant commentary and advice. At least the ref had the balls to over rule him a couple of times but it led to some rather perplexing situations especially the maul YC where the TMO quickly identified a culprit from something nobody else could see or find.

Only call I had a real problem with that I could finger as plainly wrong was the non PT for the slap down. You can't rule it out just because 'there was cover coming'. It has to be 'there was cover coming in an effective position to probably stop that try'. The cover would have got there to attempt a tackle but hardly a certain or likely thing that they would have prevented the try. I betcha if that played out (removing the slap down) there would have been a 90% chance of a score.

Duluth

The Silver Fern

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