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Blues v Force

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Is there any definition of what the rest protocol is? Completely out of the 23? Just in TT?

    It'll definitely include R Ioane who has started every match. What's the centre pairing? TJ/Heem? Plummer/TJ? I assume Tele'a is still injured?

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    @duluth said in Blues v Force:

    Is there any definition of what the rest protocol is? Completely out of the 23? Just in TT?

    It'll definitely include R Ioane who has started every match. What's the centre pairing? TJ/Heem? Plummer/TJ? I assume Tele'a is still injured?

    Akira and Karl would be silly as they have been used off the bench.

    Losing Reiko would be huge.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @duluth said in Blues v Force:

      Is there any definition of what the rest protocol is? Completely out of the 23? Just in TT?

      It'll definitely include R Ioane who has started every match. What's the centre pairing? TJ/Heem? Plummer/TJ? I assume Tele'a is still injured?

      Akira and Karl would be silly as they have been used off the bench.

      Losing Reiko would be huge.

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      @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

      Losing Reiko would be huge.

      if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

        Losing Reiko would be huge.

        if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

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        @taniwharugby said in Blues v Force:

        @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

        Losing Reiko would be huge.

        if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

        I'm not worried about the win, we should get that. The bonus point may be an issue without RI, as if you look at his stats he's been the best performing centre. Sets up a lot of our trys.

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          I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @taniwharugby said in Blues v Force:

            @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

            Losing Reiko would be huge.

            if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

            I'm not worried about the win, we should get that. The bonus point may be an issue without RI, as if you look at his stats he's been the best performing centre. Sets up a lot of our trys.

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            @kirwan 32-17 average scoreline at EP is right on the cusp, 3 tries with cons/pens or 5/6 tries and a poor day with the boot.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @taniwharugby said in Blues v Force:

              @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

              Losing Reiko would be huge.

              if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

              I'm not worried about the win, we should get that. The bonus point may be an issue without RI, as if you look at his stats he's been the best performing centre. Sets up a lot of our trys.

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              @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

              @taniwharugby said in Blues v Force:

              @kirwan said in Blues v Force:

              Losing Reiko would be huge.

              if it was a big game...while the Force have always been a tricky opponent, the BLues should still account for them.

              I'm not worried about the win, we should get that. The bonus point may be an issue without RI, as if you look at his stats he's been the best performing centre. Sets up a lot of our trys.

              I wouldn't mind if the replacement centre had a stormer and they put Reiko on the wing for the final if it will lead to Foster selecting him as the left wing for the ABs.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

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                @bovidae said in Blues v Force:

                I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

                I'm not too comfortable with the PD advantage we have. I can see the Crusaders and Highlanders closing the gap quite easily. And it's not a guarantee that we will add many more points to the PD with the Force having 3 close losses in their last 4 games.

                We do have the benefit of playing last of the contenders, so we'll know what we need to do to get a final/home final.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

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                  @bovidae said in Blues v Force:

                  I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

                  That would be a bold approach, to make the final on PD is one thing but to bank on it is another, they'll surely want to go for it

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @bovidae said in Blues v Force:

                    I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

                    That would be a bold approach, to make the final on PD is one thing but to bank on it is another, they'll surely want to go for it

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                    @kiwiwomble said in Blues v Force:

                    @bovidae said in Blues v Force:

                    I doubt the Blues will need a BP as they have a big PD advantage.

                    That would be a bold approach, to make the final on PD is one thing but to bank on it is another, they'll surely want to go for it

                    This conversation is a bit meaningless. The Blues aren't banking on anything, they play after the Highlanders and Crusaders.
                    They'll know what they need before kickoff.

                    If the Crusaders win by more than 39 (or the Highlanders by more than 27) then the Blues will need to improve their points diff or win with a bonus point to get a home final.
                    39 is still a lot. So far the best Crusaders margin has been 35

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                      I'm sure the Blues want a BP win as that guarantees a home final, but unlike the Highlanders and Crusaders it isn't necessary.

                      @Duluth explained the calculations I had typed. The Highlanders beating the Brumbies in Canberra by 29 pts is a big ask. That is assuming that the Blues won by only 1 pt but the Highlanders would need to have a PD of 1 pt better to overtake the Blues. The same for the Crusaders.

                      Tie breaking rules
                       
                      In the event of two or more teams being equal on competition points for any position on the Competition table, either during or at the end of the season, such position will be decided upon using the following steps until the tie is broken:
                       
                      a) Most wins from all matches;
                      b) Highest aggregate points difference from all matches;
                      c) Most tries from all matches;
                      d) Highest aggregate difference of total tries for versus tries scored against from all matches;
                      e) Coin toss
                      
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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300327696/super-rugby-offa-tuungafasi-out-for-blues-as-they-prepare-for-semi-against-force

                        Expect the Blues accordingly to send out something resembling their best available for this pivotal contest. Nepo Laulala should slot in at starting tighthead, and possibly Hoskins Sotutu could return at No 8. The backline has been pretty settled through this campaign.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Is there any definition of what the rest protocol is? Completely out of the 23? Just in TT?

                          It'll definitely include R Ioane who has started every match. What's the centre pairing? TJ/Heem? Plummer/TJ? I assume Tele'a is still injured?

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                          @duluth said in Blues v Force:

                          Is there any definition of what the rest protocol is? Completely out of the 23? Just in TT?

                          It'll definitely include R Ioane who has started every match. What's the centre pairing? TJ/Heem? Plummer/TJ? I assume Tele'a is still injured?

                          If Rieko has to be rested, I'd be OK with TJ/Heem. We did get Plummer/TJ at the end of the Tahs game though.

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300327696/super-rugby-offa-tuungafasi-out-for-blues-as-they-prepare-for-semi-against-force

                            Expect the Blues accordingly to send out something resembling their best available for this pivotal contest. Nepo Laulala should slot in at starting tighthead, and possibly Hoskins Sotutu could return at No 8. The backline has been pretty settled through this campaign.

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                            @tim "Offa" nice work Stuff.

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                              @tim "Offa" nice work Stuff.

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                              @kiwimurph Didn't know it was so tough to spell.....

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Maybe some changes in the pack for this one?

                                GCT, Robinson & Papali'i have had a heavy workload recently. Goodhue in for GCT and a backrow of Gibson (or Choat)/Sotutu/Ioane?

                                That would still be a strong pack

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                                @duluth might see Ray Niuia get a run in this one

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                                  @duluth might see Ray Niuia get a run in this one

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                                  @nogusta said in Blues v Force:

                                  might see Ray Niuia get a run in this one

                                  Interesting.

                                  His two year deal is just about up. So he'd basically be playing for a new contract.

                                  Looks like he only made it on the field once as a sub last year

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                                    @duluth might see Ray Niuia get a run in this one

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                                    @nogusta Hmmm would rather look to the future and play Tolai and Vikena who has impressed me but never mind.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @nogusta said in Blues v Force:

                                      might see Ray Niuia get a run in this one

                                      Interesting.

                                      His two year deal is just about up. So he'd basically be playing for a new contract.

                                      Looks like he only made it on the field once as a sub last year

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                                      @duluth yea can't remember the game but he'd just gotten on the field then busted his ACL. It was actually Ofa who came in from the side of a ruck and cleaned out the opposition player as well as Niuias knee!

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                                        @nogusta Hmmm would rather look to the future and play Tolai and Vikena who has impressed me but never mind.

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                                        @african-monkey parting gift from the coaches? the dude has only had about 5 minutes playing time in 2 years!

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                                          1 Alex Hodgman, 2 Kurt Eklund, 3 Nepo Laulala, 4 Gerard Cowley Tuioti, 5 Patrick Tuipulotu, 6 Tom Robinson, 7 Dalton Papalii, 8 Hoskins Sotutu, 9 Finlay Christie, 10 Otere Black, 11 Mark Telea, 12 TJ Faiane, 13 Rieko Ioane, 14 Bryce Heem, 15 Zarn Sullivan

                                          Reserves: 16 Ray Niuia, 17 Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18 Marcel Renata, 19 Josh Goodhue, 20 Akira Ioane, 21 Jonathan Ruru, 22 Harry Plummer, 23 AJ Lam

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