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Lions v British & Irish Lions

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

    @duluth said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

    https://twitter.com/KyranBracken/status/1410933146477023232

    Clearly, Luke Cowan-Dickie shouldn't be playing Rugby for a few weeks. Very worrying indeed that the British and Irish Lions management are willing to jeopardise the long-term health of one of their players. Poor form. I hope they think again and he doesn't take the field.

    They’re not passing him fit though are they?

    Surely it’s his employers who are ‘sub- contracting’ him to BIL

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    @mikethesnow One for the lawyers certianly in terms of finance issues.

    But morally the correct action is obvious. If the B and I management have seen that video how on earth can they pick L C-D today and then talk about players' welfare ever again? He must be withdrawn.

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      What worries me most here is that the B & I coach is Warren Gatland who due to coach a NZ Super franchise next season. Absolutely appalling that a senior NZR coach could have so little concern for a player's long term welfare.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        What worries me most here is that the B & I coach is Warren Gatland who due to coach a NZ Super franchise next season. Absolutely appalling that a senior NZR coach could have so little concern for a player's long term welfare.

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        @sparky said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

        What worries me most here is that the B & I coach is Warren Gatland who due to coach a NZ Super franchise next season. Absolutely appalling that a senior NZR coach could have so little concern for a player's long term welfare.

        Perhaps we should mention George North to Gatland?

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          Christ pull the reigns in on the moral high horse

          If you’ve followed / go back through the head injuries threads you’ll see I’m the biggest advocate of a 3-week sit down for concussion like it was when I was playing.

          Should he have even been allowed to fly, let alone be picked?

          I DON’T KNOW

          And that’s the point

          I’m trying to distinguish between moral opinion and World Rugby policy and protocol.

          Examined on pitch
          Presumably failed HIA and sat the rest of the match out
          Had subsequent HIA at recognised time intervals post-injury and at some point he passed.

          Given the go ahead by his club doctor

          Passed BIL medical to join tour

          What’s next?

          Garland ignoring the policy, protocol and current science and saying see you in a couple of weeks?

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            Christ pull the reigns in on the moral high horse

            If you’ve followed / go back through the head injuries threads you’ll see I’m the biggest advocate of a 3-week sit down for concussion like it was when I was playing.

            Should he have even been allowed to fly, let alone be picked?

            I DON’T KNOW

            And that’s the point

            I’m trying to distinguish between moral opinion and World Rugby policy and protocol.

            Examined on pitch
            Presumably failed HIA and sat the rest of the match out
            Had subsequent HIA at recognised time intervals post-injury and at some point he passed.

            Given the go ahead by his club doctor

            Passed BIL medical to join tour

            What’s next?

            Garland ignoring the policy, protocol and current science and saying see you in a couple of weeks?

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            @mikethesnow Good summation Mike. Logic tells us that he shouldn't be playing but we are not party to the medical evidence. Rob Baxter is very hot on player welfare at Exeter so I would assume that LCD has passed all the protocols there are and I cannot see Gatland and co going against any guidance from the Exeter medical team, no matter what his own medics might say.

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              So. Comfortable win for the good guys but not sure what the take aways will be. Russell did some good stuff but he also gave us some buttock clenching moments. Welsh wingers finished very well. Lawes put in a shift. Watson was ever present. I like him as a lion but when he’s playing against England, he’s an annoying little shit.

              Oh and a message to Eddie, Daly is 88.25% more effective at 13 than 15.

              Edit: I like him a bit better knowing now that he is actually an Englishman. Bloody poaching Scots.

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                Just watched a replay of this game. The B&I Lions' backs looked slick and played at a good tempo. The forwards were physical.

                I'm not sure of the strength of these SA teams at the moment though without their Boks.

                I also thought that there were obvious differences in how Jacobs refereed the breakdown compared to what we have seen in SRA. I was also surprised that Rees-Zammit wasn't at least penalised early in the game for taking out a Lions player in the air. It didn't look like he was really contesting for the high ball.

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                  Solid start to the tour

                  The Good
                  Finishing was superb, as was support play
                  Great defensive organisation by Harris. He’s really put himself in contention. Looked good with Farrell
                  Watson was excellent
                  Itoje is a definite Test starter
                  Hogg or Williams going to be a tough call
                  As will who misses out between Adams, LRZ, Watson

                  The Bad
                  Price and Russell won’t feature in the Tests

                  The Ugly
                  Lawes, Simmonds and Sinckler lucky not to get yellow

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    Solid start to the tour

                    The Good
                    Finishing was superb, as was support play
                    Great defensive organisation by Harris. He’s really put himself in contention. Looked good with Farrell
                    Watson was excellent
                    Itoje is a definite Test starter
                    Hogg or Williams going to be a tough call
                    As will who misses out between Adams, LRZ, Watson

                    The Bad
                    Price and Russell won’t feature in the Tests

                    The Ugly
                    Lawes, Simmonds and Sinckler lucky not to get yellow

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                    @mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

                    The Bad
                    Price and Russell won’t feature in the Tests

                    It will be interesting if they’re given another chance. Price might make the bench of one of the tests.

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                      “I’m gonna make every ball to Owen a crash or just miss him out all together”
                      5716e43f-dfe5-4169-b508-934694450885-image.png

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

                        The Bad
                        Price and Russell won’t feature in the Tests

                        It will be interesting if they’re given another chance. Price might make the bench of one of the tests.

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                        @act-crusader said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

                        @mikethesnow said in Lions v British & Irish Lions:

                        The Bad
                        Price and Russell won’t feature in the Tests

                        It will be interesting if they’re given another chance. Price might make the bench of one of the tests.

                        Murray, Davies

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