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    Springbok team to face the British & Irish Lions at Cape Town Stadium:
    15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 63 caps, 60 pts (12t)
    14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse) – 15 caps, 40 pts (8t)
    13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 16 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 48 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 15 caps, 70 pts (14t)
    10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 50 caps, 477pts (6t, 78c, 93p, 4d)
    9 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 31 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 1 cap, 0 pts
    7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers) – 57 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 52 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    5 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 41 caps, 5pts (1t)
    4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 87 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 40 caps, 5pts (1t)
    2 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 38 caps, 40 pts (8t)
    1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 49 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Replacements:
    16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 35 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    17 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 44 caps, 5 pts (1t)
    18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 21 caps, 0 pts
    19 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 46 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    20 – Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 3 caps, 0 pts
    21 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 8 caps, 5 pts (1t)
    22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 8 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Starting side as expected with only Wiese being a bit of a change direction from last week.

    The bench is a bit weird though. Nyakane is covering loose head though I can't remember him playing there in the last couple years. Koch comes in as th cover despite being poor in the warm ups. Then there are two very similar loose-forwards on the bench in Kwagga and Van Staden. Then in backs we have Willemse covering 10,12 and 15 (ten being the weakest of those positions).

    Overall I don't like the bench, I am not sure of the fitness of the other players, but it looks a little slap dash to me. The 6-2 split at WC only really worked because we had 4 awesome locks and having them all in the squad was just best use of available resources, his just seems like a collection of last men standing.

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    @sidbarret great shame Ox out, as I thought he was excellent on Saturday, and would have liked to see him starting with Malherbe.

    I felt Kolisi was a bit undercooked on Saturday, but assume Kwagga wouldn’t be used as replacement for him?

    Any news on Duane?

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    @pakman Kolisi's form has been a concern since his injury all the way back in 2019 with another big injury 2020 not helping. I thought he was fine, if unspectacular, on Saturday though.

    There were talk that Vermeulen might be available for the third test, but I think he is more likely to return against Argentina, which kinda sucks.

    On the subject of number eights, I haven't seen anything of Wiese playing in England and he was a bit of shock selection for the squad. I would have liked to see the young WP number eight, Evan Roos being given a shot in the squad, expect him to feature later in the season.

    Apparently Nche is injured, which as you note, is a pity, really liked what I saw from him over weekend.

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    @sidbarret https://www.msn.com/en-za/sport/other/update-duane-vermeulens-injury-status-ahead-of-remaining-british-and-irish-lions-tests-revealed/ar-AAMzf3Y

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    @sidbarret glad to see van Staden on the bench at least. He should started.

    Duanne was waterboy for the Bulls on sunday.

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    I’ll do a proper post soon. But for now: no Ox? WTF?
    Knew very little about him before test 1 but thought he more than earned a second start?

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    @daffy-jaffy said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    Who’s running the pressers, GB News?

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    @oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    @sidbarret glad to see van Staden on the bench at least. He should started.

    Duanne was waterboy for the Bulls on sunday.

    Actually carrying water? 😲

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    @billy-webb Agree, but hurt his neck.

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    The Boks have really got to hope Handre doesn’t go down, I know they play of 9 much more, but still.

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    @sidbarret said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    11 – Makazole Mapimpi

    Plenty of high balls from BIL going to the left wing.

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    @sidbarret said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    Springbok team to face the British & Irish Lions at Cape Town Stadium:
    15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 63 caps, 60 pts (12t)
    14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse) – 15 caps, 40 pts (8t)
    13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 16 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 48 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 15 caps, 70 pts (14t)
    10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 50 caps, 477pts (6t, 78c, 93p, 4d)
    9 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 31 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 1 cap, 0 pts
    7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers) – 57 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 52 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    5 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 41 caps, 5pts (1t)
    4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 87 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 40 caps, 5pts (1t)
    2 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 38 caps, 40 pts (8t)
    1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 49 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Replacements:
    16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 35 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    17 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 44 caps, 5 pts (1t)
    18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 21 caps, 0 pts
    19 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 46 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    20 – Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 3 caps, 0 pts
    21 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 8 caps, 5 pts (1t)
    22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 8 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Starting side as expected with only Wiese being a bit of a change direction from last week.

    The bench is a bit weird though. Nyakane is covering loose head though I can't remember him playing there in the last couple years. Koch comes in as th cover despite being poor in the warm ups. Then there are two very similar loose-forwards on the bench in Kwagga and Van Staden. Then in backs we have Willemse covering 10,12 and 15 (ten being the weakest of those positions).

    Overall I don't like the bench, I am not sure of the fitness of the other players, but it looks a little slap dash to me. The 6-2 split at WC only really worked because we had 4 awesome locks and having them all in the squad was just best use of available resources, his just seems like a collection of last men standing.

    12 of the 23 play outside South Africa.

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    @number-10 6 of the pack and 8 in the starting XV played for the Stormers when Rassie coached.

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    @catogrande

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    Squidge's take on what happened in I and what could happen in II

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    @mikethesnow And an hour from Rassie to follow it up with …

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    @mikethesnow was just starting to watch.

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    @mantissanet said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    @mikethesnow And an hour from Rassie to follow it up with …

    Always baffles me how Rassie is regarded as this amazing motivational coach

    I'm ready to top myself within the first two minutes of listening to him

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    @mikethesnow And an hour from Rassie to follow it up with …

    What is he doing?
    This is just bizarre.

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