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  • SammyCS Offline
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    SammyC
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    #63

    <p>If anyone is interested I watched Ben Volavola and Mitchell Hunt play at 15 on opposing sides in Club Rugby on Saturday.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Volavola was pretty unimpressive, but Hunt was outstanding, reminded me a little bit of MacKenzie</p>

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    • SmudgeS Offline
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      #64

      <p>Nadolo gets four weeks (3 Super Rugby and a club game) for his belated tip tackle.</p>

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      • SammyCS Offline
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        #65

        <p>where can I see footage of the tackle? </p>

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        • SmudgeS Offline
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          <p>Tried Google?</p>
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          <p> :whistle:</p>
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          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/crusaders-winger-nemani-nadolo-cops-four-week-ban-for-lifting-tackle-2016042614#axzz46smP7Re6?platform=hootsuite'>http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/crusaders-winger-nemani-nadolo-cops-four-week-ban-for-lifting-tackle-2016042614#axzz46smP7Re6?platform=hootsuite</a></p>

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          • StargazerS Offline
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            Stargazer
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            #67

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="574898" data-time="1461638433">
            <div>
            <p>where can I see footage of the tackle? </p>
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            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>The same video that I posted earlier is bigger in this article: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/crusaders-winger-nemani-nadolo-cops-four-week-ban-for-lifting-tackle-2016042614#axzz46smP7Re6?platform=hootsuite'>http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/crusaders-winger-nemani-nadolo-cops-four-week-ban-for-lifting-tackle-2016042614#axzz46smP7Re6?platform=hootsuite</a></p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Considering that Evemy also got 4 weeks, I think Nadolo's ban is a bit harsh.</p>

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            • SammyCS Offline
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              #68

              <p>So he'll miss games against the reds (home), highlanders (away) and tahs (home).</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Could be worse, the highlanders game is the biggest concern.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Wonder if Fruen is far away? I'll keep an on club rugby as Toddy likes his players to return from injury that way</p>

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                #69

                <p>From One News Sport (more details):</p>
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                <p><strong><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Nemani Nadolo cops four-week suspension for tackle</span></span></strong><br>
                 <br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>Crusaders winger Nemani Nadolo has been banned for four weeks after a dangerous tackle against the Brumbies.</strong></span></span><br>
                 <br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">SANZAAR duty judicial officer Chris Morris accepted a guilty plea from Nadolo after he was cited for a dangerous lifting tackle on Brumbies halfback Tomas Cubelli.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">"After careful consideration of the available evidence ... the offence was categorised as low-end which carries a four weeks suspension," Morris said. </span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">"I took into account as mitigating factors the player's disciplinary record after a lengthy professional career, his guilty plea and the fact that the tackle was reckless rather than deliberate. The player was therefore given a two week discount on the original sanction creating a recommended sanction of two weeks.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">"<strong>I took into account World Rugby memorandums about lifting tackles and the need to deter this very action from the game. As such I found it necessary to add two additional weeks to the recommended sanction</strong>.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">"The player is accordingly suspended from all rugby for four weeks until 21 May 2016 which effectively is a three match Super Rugby suspension. We were provided with proof that he would have been selected to play in a club match on 30 April 2016, which the player will also miss as a result of the suspension."</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">With the Crusaders due for a bye next week, Nadolo will only miss three games and will be available for selection when they play the Waratahs on May 20. </span></span></p>
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                <p> <br>
                I find it absolutely ridiculous that they add two weeks, just to deter others. The law alone should be sufficient deterrence. If they don't consider 4 weeks enough, than they should lift the initial penalty, not something arbitrary like this.<br>
                As I said above, Evemy also got 4 weeks for a worse offence (mid-range v Nadolo's low-range). How can the penalty be the same?</p>

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                • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                  taniwharugby
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                  <p>just highlights the inconsistencies of the Judiciary when WWE moves can get away with much lesser punishment.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Apparently the starting point for Emery was 6 weeks, discounted because of guilty plea and remorse (Grr) but suspect that as he all but missed the Sharks match was taken into account...which I thnk was about right, it was careless with no intent and deserved a decent ban.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I'll have to watch Nadolos again on a better feed cos it didn't look that bad, so he pleads guilty, probably remorseful and they add 2 weeks as a deterrent!</p>

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                  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                    <p>Really? Nadolo was going to play club rugby in the bye week? yeah right. The guy is one of the first names on the team sheet, so I doubt he was going to be risked playing some grade footy.</p>

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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="574902" data-time="1461639467">
                      <div>
                      <p>So he'll miss games against the reds (home), highlanders (away) and tahs (home).</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Could be worse, the highlanders game is the biggest concern.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><strong>Wonder if Fruen is far away</strong>? I'll keep an on club rugby as Toddy likes his players to return from injury that way</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>I remember reading that they expected him to return in May, but whether that will be after the bye ...?</p>

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                      • StargazerS Offline
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                        #73

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="574905" data-time="1461640449">
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                        <p>Really? Nadolo was going to play club rugby in the bye week? yeah right. The guy is one of the first names on the team sheet, so I doubt he was going to be risked playing some grade footy.</p>
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                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Was wondering about that, too. Maybe they put crucial players on local clubs' team sheets "just in case"?</p>

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                        • boobooB Offline
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                          booboo
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                          Stargazer - sorry to be pedantic but it's Emery not Evemy. <br><br>
                          (Not to get all Gollum/Messum on you ... )

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                          • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                            ACT Crusader
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                            #75

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="574908" data-time="1461640678">
                            <div>
                            <p>Was wondering about that, too. Maybe they put crucial players on local clubs' team sheets "just in case"?</p>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Or they were concerned after watching the tape that some admin person at the Crusaders rang up Marist and said 'name him'....</p>

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                            • SammyCS Offline
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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="574912" data-time="1461640951">
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                              <p>Or they were concerned after watching the tape that some admin person at the Crusaders rang up Marist and said 'name him'....</p>
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                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Club teams won't have been named yet for the weekend, so not really a valid point.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>it's not the first time that club games have counted anyway, didn't the same happen with the Pocock suspension?</p>

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                                <p>has happened plenty of times, we all agree it sucks, but is a loophole they use and SANZAR don't seem fussed on closing it or even if they consider it an issue.</p>

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                                  #78

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="574913" data-time="1461641076">
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                                  <p><strong>Club teams won't have been named yet </strong>for the weekend, so not really a valid point.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>it's not the first time that club games have counted anyway, didn't the same happen with the Pocock suspension?</p>
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Yes, true, but the sentence of the judicial officer says that evidence was provided that he 'would have been selected to play in a club match on 30 April'. What else could that evidence be? I don't remember the Pocock ruling saying anything about evidence being provided he would play club rugby.</p>

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                                    ACT Crusader
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                                    <p>The only other thing that I could imagine as evidence of him going to play this Saturday is some document signed by the Saders effectively releasing him to the club to play.</p>

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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="574918" data-time="1461641687">
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                                      <p>The only other thing that I could imagine as evidence of him going to play this Saturday is some document signed by the Saders effectively releasing him to the club to play.</p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>I guess the thing is, knowing the possibility of players getting a ban over Bye week and it counting toward the overall ban, the Franchises have some system in place ready to deal with it?</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>You'd be dumb not to be ready for it should any player be facing the judiciary.</p>

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                                      • No QuarterN Offline
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                                        No Quarter
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                                        <p>I've lost the will to complain about judiciary decisions. I just accept it's a lottery and move on.</p>

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                                          African Monkey
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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="574842" data-time="1461622937">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>If anyone is interested I watched Ben Volavola and Mitchell Hunt play at 15 on opposing sides in Club Rugby on Saturday.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Volavola was pretty unimpressive, but Hunt was outstanding, reminded me a little bit of MacKenzie</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p>I see Sydenham's attack improved with him there. Watched them the previous week against New Brighton and they showed very little anywhere apart from their scrambling defence.</p>

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