Wallabies vs Springboks I
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@nta with all due respect Saffers want to measure against the All Blacks. So don't read to much from Mallet. That 100th test is going to be the test to win. Springboks are weak as favorites.
@oompb World Champions and Lions tamers = near unbackable favourites.
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@act-crusader ouch
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I know I should not be confident when the boks are playing in Australia, but I can't really see where this wallaby side is going to hurt the boks.
For South Africa the aim should be to attack the set piece. I back our scrum to have dominance at various times of the match, largely due to the depth we have there at the moment. The line out should be able to pressure theirs, though it will be interesting to see if we go with go with a lock on the bench or just two loose forwards with Mostert moving to lock later.
Then we also need to keep our discipline. I feel we can keep the pressure on Australia without taking to many risks at the ruck. So far this season our discipline has not been good enough and we need to ensure credit in the bank with referees with the All Black games coming up.
Based on the bledisloe series ther should be enough dropped balls and errors from the aussies for us to get possession in right parts of the field. The boks ability to transition from defense to attack is an under-rated part of their play.
If everything goes to plan I think we can have a 25-6 kind of result. If we play like we did in Arg 2, then we are looking at 18-13 kind of win. If we lose it will be because the Wallabies showed something we haven't seen from them this season AND a breakdown of the Springbok game (poor discipline, fluffed chances and bad goal kicking). I can see that happening sadly, but don't think it is the most likely outcome.
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@nta It's all about coaches. Rassie & Nienaber scout talent so much better then the others and made transformation top priority. The Springbokke results show improvement since Rassie took over.
Wallabies are the big favorites playing at home in front of their home crowds. Our lot haven't played in front of crowds since the 2019 WC.
Luckily we have Duane and Faf back. Cheslin probably out.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta It's all about coaches. Rassie & Nienaber scout talent so much better then the others and made transformation top priority. The Springbokke results show improvement since Rassie took over.
Wallabies are the big favorites playing at home in front of their home crowds. Our lot haven't played in front of crowds since the 2019 WC.
Luckily we have Duane and Faf back. Cheslin probably out.
I thought battling for underdog was so 10 years ago.
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Springbok team to face Australia in Gold Coast:
15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 66 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks) – 12 caps, 40 pts (8t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 19 caps, 20 pts (4t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 51 caps, 30 pts (6t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 18 caps, 80 pts (16t)
10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 53 caps, 521 pts (6t, 82c, 105p, 4d)
9 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 32 caps, 25 pts (5t)
8 – Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Bulls) – 53 caps, 15 pts (3t)
7 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 44 caps, 5pts (1t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 56 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 50 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 90 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 43 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 41 caps, 40 pts (8t)
1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 52 caps, 5pts (1t)Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 39 caps, 35 pts (7t)
17 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 4 caps, 0 pts
18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 24 caps, 0 pts
19 – Marco van Staden (Leicester Tigers) – 6 caps, 0 pts
20 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 12 caps, 5 pts (1t)
21 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 5 caps, 0 pts
22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 14 caps, 25 pts (5t)
23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 5pts (1t)Springbok record against Australia:
Played 88; Won 48, Lost 37, Drawn 3; Points for 1733, Points against 1550; Tries scored 202, Tries conceded 159; Highest score 61 pts, Biggest win 45 pts; Win %: 54%.
Milestones:
Makazole Mapimpi has scored 16 tries in 18 Tests, which equates to a try-scoring record of 88.9%. The player with the best try-scoring ratio with more than 20 Test caps, is former Springbok centre Danie Gerber, who ended his career with 19 tries in 24 Tests (79.2%).
Duane Vermeulen will start his 53rd Test in the Springbok No 8 jersey, stretching his number of starts to six more than the second-placed Pierre Spies (47).
Miscellaneous:The total Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is
There are 251 caps in the backline with 429 caps amongst the forwards. On the bench there are a further 116
The average caps per player in the backline are 36 the forwards 53 while the players on the bench average 14. -
Fark that's an impressive 23 on paper. To not have PSDT and then you look up and see....Mostert. Great.
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Springbok team to face Australia in Gold Coast:
15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 66 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks) – 12 caps, 40 pts (8t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 19 caps, 20 pts (4t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 51 caps, 30 pts (6t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 18 caps, 80 pts (16t)
10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 53 caps, 521 pts (6t, 82c, 105p, 4d)
9 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 32 caps, 25 pts (5t)
8 – Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Bulls) – 53 caps, 15 pts (3t)
7 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 44 caps, 5pts (1t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 56 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 50 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 90 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 43 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 41 caps, 40 pts (8t)
1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 52 caps, 5pts (1t)Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 39 caps, 35 pts (7t)
17 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 4 caps, 0 pts
18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 24 caps, 0 pts
19 – Marco van Staden (Leicester Tigers) – 6 caps, 0 pts
20 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 12 caps, 5 pts (1t)
21 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 5 caps, 0 pts
22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 14 caps, 25 pts (5t)
23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 5pts (1t)Springbok record against Australia:
Played 88; Won 48, Lost 37, Drawn 3; Points for 1733, Points against 1550; Tries scored 202, Tries conceded 159; Highest score 61 pts, Biggest win 45 pts; Win %: 54%.
Milestones:
Makazole Mapimpi has scored 16 tries in 18 Tests, which equates to a try-scoring record of 88.9%. The player with the best try-scoring ratio with more than 20 Test caps, is former Springbok centre Danie Gerber, who ended his career with 19 tries in 24 Tests (79.2%).
Duane Vermeulen will start his 53rd Test in the Springbok No 8 jersey, stretching his number of starts to six more than the second-placed Pierre Spies (47).
Miscellaneous:The total Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is
There are 251 caps in the backline with 429 caps amongst the forwards. On the bench there are a further 116
The average caps per player in the backline are 36 the forwards 53 while the players on the bench average 14. -
@bones said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Fark that's an impressive 23 on paper. To not have PSDT and then you look up and see....Mostert. Great.
I guess we can count our lucky stars the game isn’t going to be played on paper
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@booboo said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb 6-2 bench?
Edit: so don't expect too much razzle-dazzle
Damian Willemse covers 1st 5, 2nd 5 and fullback.
If one of their wingers go off Lukhanyo Am covers wing and Willemse comes on to 2nd 5 and de Allande moves to centre.
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Springbok team to face Australia in Gold Coast:
15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 66 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks) – 12 caps, 40 pts (8t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 19 caps, 20 pts (4t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 51 caps, 30 pts (6t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 18 caps, 80 pts (16t)
10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain, Montpellier) – 53 caps, 521 pts (6t, 82c, 105p, 4d)
9 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 32 caps, 25 pts (5t)
8 – Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Bulls) – 53 caps, 15 pts (3t)
7 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 44 caps, 5pts (1t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 56 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 50 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 90 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 43 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 41 caps, 40 pts (8t)
1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 52 caps, 5pts (1t)Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 39 caps, 35 pts (7t)
17 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 4 caps, 0 pts
18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 24 caps, 0 pts
19 – Marco van Staden (Leicester Tigers) – 6 caps, 0 pts
20 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 12 caps, 5 pts (1t)
21 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 5 caps, 0 pts
22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 14 caps, 25 pts (5t)
23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 12 caps, 5pts (1t)Springbok record against Australia:
Played 88; Won 48, Lost 37, Drawn 3; Points for 1733, Points against 1550; Tries scored 202, Tries conceded 159; Highest score 61 pts, Biggest win 45 pts; Win %: 54%.
Milestones:
Makazole Mapimpi has scored 16 tries in 18 Tests, which equates to a try-scoring record of 88.9%. The player with the best try-scoring ratio with more than 20 Test caps, is former Springbok centre Danie Gerber, who ended his career with 19 tries in 24 Tests (79.2%).
Duane Vermeulen will start his 53rd Test in the Springbok No 8 jersey, stretching his number of starts to six more than the second-placed Pierre Spies (47).
Miscellaneous:The total Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is
There are 251 caps in the backline with 429 caps amongst the forwards. On the bench there are a further 116
The average caps per player in the backline are 36 the forwards 53 while the players on the bench average 14. -
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Boks by a THOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSAND.
@duluth said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Anyone picking the Aussies?
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@duluth said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Anyone picking the Aussies?
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@booboo said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb 6-2 bench?
Edit: so don't expect too much razzle-dazzle
Damian Willemse covers 1st 5, 2nd 5 and fullback.
If one of their wingers go off Lukhanyo Am covers wing and Willemse comes on to 2nd 5 and de Allande moves to centre.
@act-crusader said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@booboo said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb 6-2 bench?
Edit: so don't expect too much razzle-dazzle
Damian Willemse covers 1st 5, 2nd 5 and fullback.
If one of their wingers go off Lukhanyo Am covers wing and Willemse comes on to 2nd 5 and de Allande moves to centre.
Kwagga can also cover a position or 2 in the backline if needs be.
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Still think it's not going to be easy for the Boks. The Aussies will be coming out firing with the kitchen sink and baby. Would not be surprised with the score if it is within a converted try.
Boks scrum will need to be firing at full cylinders.
@g-man said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Still think it's not going to be easy for the Boks. The Aussies will be coming out firing with the kitchen sink and baby. Would not be surprised with the score if it is within a converted try.
Boks scrum will need to be firing at full cylinders.
Wasn't the Bok scrum dominant against the Lions?
