Wallabies vs Springboks I
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@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!
If you want big lumps, then Philip and Rodda
Picked it.
How do you rate Folau Fainga’a at scrum time?
Not as high as BPA, and he's got a new LHP to work with in Bell. Interesting to see how they go.
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!
If you want big lumps, then Philip and Rodda
Picked it.
How do you rate Folau Fainga’a at scrum time?
Not as high as BPA, and he's got a new LHP to work with in Bell. Interesting to see how they go.
Odd. I suppose there is the ACT combo? And the mauling?
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Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
I'm sure I mentioned how old it is to try and claim underdog status when you're clearly 20 point favourites.
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Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
My condolences but he is yours now
https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/springboks/mark-keohanes-sport-wishlist-for-2021-a2c05ce5-52a6-4aae-bb37-2d874d97ce41CAPE TOWN - Please 2021, let me – and every other **South African rugby supporter** – get to finally see our world champion Springboks in action in South Africa. -
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.
Keohane: “So the All Blacks get their way… the team pumped by England in RWC semi, embarrassed by [Argentina] in 2020 & beaten by Aus in 2020 only have to hop over the Ta$man… never known the All Blacks team to be so obvious about avoiding playing the Springboks in South Africa.”
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These Wallabies are wimps. Siya Kolisi’s world champion Springboks will wallop them, writes Mark Keohane. It will be champ up against chump and the scoreboard will reflect this.
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“Marius Jonker: Regardless of your nationality, you didn’t have balls to make a rugby decision tonight because in your heart you know that Willie was not in front of the kicker and that Hamish Watson should have been carded. You despicable prick. F--- you.”@nta I genuinely thought Keo had dropped off the planet until the lions series when people who wanted to be upset about South African hubris started quoting his opinions.
He is an idiot and a troll and SArugbymag (which I think started) isn't much better
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@sidbarret ouch!
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Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Aussies looking good, they’re at home on the sunny Gold Coast. There will be hundreds of people supporting the men in gold(en orange). Quade is back, Hooper is fit, the right halfback is starting, they’ve got experience off the bench with Slipper and Hodge to close out the match, they have devastating runners in Koro and Kerevi.
On the other hand it could be a massive boil over and the Boks win.
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.
Keohane: “So the All Blacks get their way… the team pumped by England in RWC semi, embarrassed by [Argentina] in 2020 & beaten by Aus in 2020 only have to hop over the Ta$man… never known the All Blacks team to be so obvious about avoiding playing the Springboks in South Africa.”
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These Wallabies are wimps. Siya Kolisi’s world champion Springboks will wallop them, writes Mark Keohane. It will be champ up against chump and the scoreboard will reflect this.
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“Marius Jonker: Regardless of your nationality, you didn’t have balls to make a rugby decision tonight because in your heart you know that Willie was not in front of the kicker and that Hamish Watson should have been carded. You despicable prick. F--- you.”@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
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@smuts sure.
Craven Week is not the breed of talented players nowadays. Easter Tournaments is more the scouters dream. Problem is we don't had any schoolboy rugby for two seasons.
I know the Western Cape schoolboy setup well, walking line for my kids schooled at Paarl Gim and the youngest at Paul Roos.
Paul Roos advert running rugby (win or loose), delivering modern players like Kitshoff, Schalk Brits, Willie , Willemse & Hershell Jantjies.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@smuts sure.
Craven Week is not the breed of talented players nowadays. Easter Tournaments is more the scouters dream.
But that's the main problem, there only 20odd teams that get invited to these and the players in the stronger teams obviously stand out more.
The whole point of Craven Week is to scout players from across a region so that all players get an opportunity to shine regardless of what school they attend.
I can't speak for the other unions, but in WP you end up with 75% of players coming from the big three Boland schools.
This is also partly due to the fact that these schools do more to develop the players, especially physically, but it also means that late bloomers are lost to the system unless they make it through the varsity cup.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
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@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
@g-man said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
If Russell Crowe can't get an Aussie passport for bonking Meg Ryan, funding a Koala Chlamydia ward and fighting lions I doubt Quade will for evading tackling.
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@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
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@g-man pretty sure all rugby countries have their own Keo versions. Bit silly to generalize their rugby knowledge.
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@g-man said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
If Russell Crowe can't get an Aussie passport for bonking Meg Ryan, funding a Koala Chlamydia ward and fighting lions I doubt Quade will for evading tackling.
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@g-man said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta Keo is an Aussie.
He's a barking mad sexpest, first and foremost.
I have no idea where he was born or what he did prior to writing articles in a very pro-Bok way, but you can't claim he's anything but a South African.**
Wasn’t he the bok media relations officer under Viljoen and Straueli? Which is fairly fucking funny now that I stop to think about it.
That clown is amongst the last people on earth I’d want by my side if I was fronting the rabid English press after I’d knocked my own teammate out while leading the boks to a historic humilification at Twickenham.
Maybe that’s harsh. I mean, he smoothed that whole Staaldraad thing over. Completely. It’s hardly even a national embarrassment.
Yup he was. He is the head troll for Twitter rugby, it's a toss up between him and that other muppet up North.
On a side note, will QC be awarded an Aussie passport if he manages to get a win over the Boks?
If Russell Crowe can't get an Aussie passport for bonking Meg Ryan, funding a Koala Chlamydia ward and fighting lions I doubt Quade will for evading tackling.
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Aussies looking good, they’re at home on the sunny Gold Coast. There will be hundreds of people supporting the men in gold(en orange). Quade is back, Hooper is fit, the right halfback is starting, they’ve got experience off the bench with Slipper and Hodge to close out the match, they have devastating runners in Koro and Kerevi.
On the other hand it could be a massive boil over and the Boks win.
@act-crusader said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Aussies looking good, they’re at home on the sunny Gold Coast. There will be hundreds of people supporting the men in gold(en orange). Quade is back, Hooper is fit, the right halfback is starting, they’ve got experience off the bench with Slipper and Hodge to close out the match, they have devastating runners in Koro and Kerevi.
On the other hand it could be a massive boil over and the Boks win.
I LOVE to see Quade back, and I will watch live just because of him. He and Carlos Spencer are compulsive viewing no matter win or lose. Their highlights reels are matched by their "fail/omg what were they thinking" reels, but they give it a go and they play rugby the way God(TM) intended it to be played**.
**Biblical references (sadly both omitted by the Council of Trent from 1563 onwards)
Eleventh Commandment
"Thou shalt exhalt the the Spiritual Guardianship of the Lord by playing running rugby 'as the angels do'. Though shalt risk earthly disregard or dishour to please Him through occasional heavenly reverse passes, banana kicks, and mortal heart-attack playmaking from the in-goal area. Amen"Twelth Commandment
"Though shalt not worship at the idolatrous altar of the round ball game. Evil doers that succumb to temptation shall suffer everlasting destruction, and be shut out from the blinding Aura of the Lord forever, for the glory of his One True Game. Hallelujah"(There were more passages about a special place in hell for 'believers' mininimising scrums, removing the breakdown, or any vile "perversions" of His Game specifically involving 10,12, 13 or 666 players).
Seriously I sense Dave Rennie is just starting to lose the selection plot and pander to populist opinion (yeah, including me). The Aussies need game management at both 9 and 10 ... I'd have chosen White and Hodge and have explained why, but dropping Tate MacDermott would be very unpopular - even if he's part of a wider problem imho. So Noah takes the hit.
Quade to play relatively conservatively, Boks by 10-17.
This is the prophecy :winking_face:
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@l_n_p said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
I've watched Bledisloe 3 a couple of times but with my AB eye-patch on :winking_face:
I don't really get the Aussie tactics. Playing the AB's at their own game as they did seems insane, the result was pretty much what you'd expect.
Especially with the Boks next up, why did they not try a tighter more set-piece (yes defensive) orientated game. Perhaps it would have been damage limitation but occasionally you get lucky. The aussie backs look either pretty average or pretty inexperienced (or both) at the moment.
For all the hyping of Tate McDermott, he has a slow pass with limited range. And his running game doesn't bring others into play ... perhaps says more about aussie team than him. Noah Lolisio may be good in time but in NZ rugby he would probably be treated more like Zarn Sullivan i.e. give him time to develop (and Zarn, from what I've seen, may have that ultimate gift for a 10, he always seems to have time).
I'd have Nick White at 9 versus the Boks. Decent pass. Brings his forwards in better. Better kicking game. There are no decent options at 10 until JOC is back and JOC is still only a safe pair of hands at 10.
I don't envy Dave Rennie tbh.
Dave's big problem is that Aussie sports / rugby fans will never get behind a team that plays "pragmatic" rugby. They love a winner that plays hard and pushes boundaries, but they really hate dour, defence-first, conservative teams. It's probably part of the national psyche that their sports teams, and people, are meant to have a crack.
@junior said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Dave's big problem is that Aussie sports / rugby fans will never get behind a team that plays "pragmatic" rugby. They love a winner that plays hard and pushes boundaries, but they really hate dour, defence-first, conservative teams. It's probably part of the national psyche that their sports teams, and people, are meant to have a crack.
Yeah, I don't disagree but even the AB's have been known when to play dour risk free rugby when conditions (wet/windy/greasy), opposition (a crack French pack) or situation ("must win") requires.
Admittedly less so since St. Richie stopped playing in 2015, witness the second half of the RWC final vs France in 2011. But I'd argue that's been part of the AB problems recently ... either tactical inflexibility or lack of ability to switch into this mode.
