Wallabies vs Springboks I
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
All good and well smacking us around up front but they only scored 13 points and I don't remember them looking particularly threatening. It was a comfortable win in the end, 13 points is never going to be enough in the modern game.
I expect they will seriously challenge us when we play them though, they are not the kind of team that can be easily blown away. We'll need to be accurate as they feed off teams mistakes (penalties and knock ons) and apply pressure through set piece.
@no-quarter said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
All good and well smacking us around up front but they only scored 13 points and I don't remember them looking particularly threatening. It was a comfortable win in the end, 13 points is never going to be enough in the modern game.
I expect they will seriously challenge us when we play them though, they are not the kind of team that can be easily blown away. We'll need to be accurate as they feed off teams mistakes (penalties and knock ons) and apply pressure through set piece.
Both teams are happy without the ball (Boks signficantly more so). There will be a lot of kicking in the first quarter to sound each other out, and it'll be a question of how early the ABs want to launch a counter to see if the Bok defence can handle the player movement off the ball.
The Boks ate the Pumas easily because their attack lacked subtlety. Same with the Lions IMHO. Simply not enough men in motion around the ball carrier. Last night the Wallaby try showed the difference - fifth phase after a lineout 40m out from the line. Some subtletly off the first phase, then a couple of simple hitups pulling the Boks wide and then back to midfield. At the last ruck, the Wallabies have 8 on 6 in the line with Pollard in the pocket. By the time Kellaway runs onto the pass, he has 4 Wallabies inside supporting while the Boks are still turning around.
It'll be interesting. Set piece could be massive - Boks fell asleep in a couple of scrums so the ABs simply can't.
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@no-quarter said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
All good and well smacking us around up front but they only scored 13 points and I don't remember them looking particularly threatening. It was a comfortable win in the end, 13 points is never going to be enough in the modern game.
I expect they will seriously challenge us when we play them though, they are not the kind of team that can be easily blown away. We'll need to be accurate as they feed off teams mistakes (penalties and knock ons) and apply pressure through set piece.
Both teams are happy without the ball (Boks signficantly more so). There will be a lot of kicking in the first quarter to sound each other out, and it'll be a question of how early the ABs want to launch a counter to see if the Bok defence can handle the player movement off the ball.
The Boks ate the Pumas easily because their attack lacked subtlety. Same with the Lions IMHO. Simply not enough men in motion around the ball carrier. Last night the Wallaby try showed the difference - fifth phase after a lineout 40m out from the line. Some subtletly off the first phase, then a couple of simple hitups pulling the Boks wide and then back to midfield. At the last ruck, the Wallabies have 8 on 6 in the line with Pollard in the pocket. By the time Kellaway runs onto the pass, he has 4 Wallabies inside supporting while the Boks are still turning around.
It'll be interesting. Set piece could be massive - Boks fell asleep in a couple of scrums so the ABs simply can't.
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@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He made two unpenalised no arms tackles in the 5-10 minutes before.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He made two unpenalised no arms tackles in the 5-10 minutes before.
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He made two unpenalised no arms tackles in the 5-10 minutes before.
Yup even the Ozzie commentators mentioned it.
Swinton did 2 no arms before he was caught too
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@nta you right. Boks left a lot of points on the floor yesterday. Can't afford it against the mighty All Blacks. Our defense also did not shoot up quick enough like against England or Lions.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta you right. Boks left a lot of points on the floor yesterday. Can't afford it against the mighty All Blacks. Our defense also did not shoot up quick enough like against England or Lions.
England and the Lions didn't play the rush defense well at all - Gatland has to cop some stick for just trying to play 6N rugby with his selections and game plan.
Wallabies played against the rush defense a little better with a couple of second-man plays and short balls out the back. Combined with Cooper's short kicks early, it held the defense up a little.
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta you right. Boks left a lot of points on the floor yesterday. Can't afford it against the mighty All Blacks. Our defense also did not shoot up quick enough like against England or Lions.
England and the Lions didn't play the rush defense well at all - Gatland has to cop some stick for just trying to play 6N rugby with his selections and game plan.
Wallabies played against the rush defense a little better with a couple of second-man plays and short balls out the back. Combined with Cooper's short kicks early, it held the defense up a little.
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@rancid-schnitzel that's exactly why I was worried about this test. The Springboks never play well going in a test as the favourites. The same happened against the Lions. Now they are in the perfect position to hit back as underdogs.
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel that's exactly why I was worried about this test. The Springboks never play well going in a test as the favourites. The same happened against the Lions. Now they are in the perfect position to hit back as underdogs.
World number 1 underdogs?!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@tim said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Last two years couldn't have gone much worse for Gatland eh?
Assume the Chiefs will stick with Clayton McMillan?
What's his record with the Chiefs again? Has completely slipped my mind......
Gah! You made me look. I had somehow completely forgotten about his awfulness
@hooroo said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@tim said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Last two years couldn't have gone much worse for Gatland eh?
Assume the Chiefs will stick with Clayton McMillan?
What's his record with the Chiefs again? Has completely slipped my mind......
Gah! You made me look. I had somehow completely forgotten about his awfulness
Then he'd be perfect! It's a Chief's tradition! That and ensuring their few good coaches retire or go coach overseas!
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel that's exactly why I was worried about this test. The Springboks never play well going in a test as the favourites. The same happened against the Lions. Now they are in the perfect position to hit back as underdogs.
World number 1 underdogs?!
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel that's exactly why I was worried about this test. The Springboks never play well going in a test as the favourites. The same happened against the Lions. Now they are in the perfect position to hit back as underdogs.
World number 1 underdogs?!
That's some stretch lol
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
Considering he can play left or right wing or fullback (or 9?) we'll have to have our best winger for pace and power to match up to him.
Hope George is ready. -
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
Considering he can play left or right wing or fullback (or 9?) we'll have to have our best winger for pace and power to match up to him.
Hope George is ready.@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
Considering he can play left or right wing or fullback (or 9?) we'll have to have our best winger for pace and power to match up to him.
Hope George is ready.On second thought, I hope he doesn't get over his injury in time......
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@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Hope George is ready.
I google George Bridge Highlights. This was the first hit on Google. 15 tries, take a look ... of them, I reckon he had to actually 'do' something in 3-4 or so; the rest were catch and run straight. Someone should do a summary if they're bored... but it supports the narrative of a solid but unspectacular winger
Thanks to sustained pressure from all the Cooper bandwagoners at the Silver Fern, it looks like Quade is that much closer to Aussie citizenship.
Cooper, who was born in New Zealand before moving to Australia at age 13, has had four requests to become an Australian citizen denied. Cooper’s latest application was rejected because he provided “no evidence” that he had “engaged in activities of benefit to Australia”.if that isn't a searing indictment on the value of the Wallabies and rugby in general to Australia, I don't know what is...
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@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
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@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
@dan54 said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
Media making up a story. Shocking.
It came out after the initial bullshit died down that every time Cooper had applied he had fucked up either his days per year as resident or his consecutive days as resident. Those are key markers to decide an application and show a commitment.
He needs to simply get an immigration consultant to mark his calendar so he doesn't fuck up again. If he had applied years ago when his main Oz rugby career was ongoing he probably wouldn't have had a problem but he waited until he was doing stints playing and working overseas. -
@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
@dan54 said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
In the Australian vernacular you move from dickhead to good bloke to hero to legend.
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Thanks to sustained pressure from all the Cooper bandwagoners at the Silver Fern, it looks like Quade is that much closer to Aussie citizenship.
Cooper, who was born in New Zealand before moving to Australia at age 13, has had four requests to become an Australian citizen denied. Cooper’s latest application was rejected because he provided “no evidence” that he had “engaged in activities of benefit to Australia”.if that isn't a searing indictment on the value of the Wallabies and rugby in general to Australia, I don't know what is...
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Thanks to sustained pressure from all the Cooper bandwagoners at the Silver Fern, it looks like Quade is that much closer to Aussie citizenship.
Cooper, who was born in New Zealand before moving to Australia at age 13, has had four requests to become an Australian citizen denied. Cooper’s latest application was rejected because he provided “no evidence” that he had “engaged in activities of benefit to Australia”.if that isn't a searing indictment on the value of the Wallabies and rugby in general to Australia, I don't know what is...
I question the whole issue about his citizenship. I stand corrected, but I'm sure he would have gotten it easily if he'd actually bothered to apply before he headed off to play overseas. I'm assuming that broke up his residency period and he had to start from scratch after that?
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@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Thanks to sustained pressure from all the Cooper bandwagoners at the Silver Fern, it looks like Quade is that much closer to Aussie citizenship.
Cooper, who was born in New Zealand before moving to Australia at age 13, has had four requests to become an Australian citizen denied. Cooper’s latest application was rejected because he provided “no evidence” that he had “engaged in activities of benefit to Australia”.if that isn't a searing indictment on the value of the Wallabies and rugby in general to Australia, I don't know what is...
I question the whole issue about his citizenship. I stand corrected, but I'm sure he would have gotten it easily if he'd actually bothered to apply before he headed off to play overseas. I'm assuming that broke up his residency period and he had to start from scratch after that?
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Thanks to sustained pressure from all the Cooper bandwagoners at the Silver Fern, it looks like Quade is that much closer to Aussie citizenship.
Cooper, who was born in New Zealand before moving to Australia at age 13, has had four requests to become an Australian citizen denied. Cooper’s latest application was rejected because he provided “no evidence” that he had “engaged in activities of benefit to Australia”.if that isn't a searing indictment on the value of the Wallabies and rugby in general to Australia, I don't know what is...
I question the whole issue about his citizenship. I stand corrected, but I'm sure he would have gotten it easily if he'd actually bothered to apply before he headed off to play overseas. I'm assuming that broke up his residency period and he had to start from scratch after that?
@crucial said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@dan54 said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus Think you just shake your head, if kicking a goal to win a rugby test is now the standard for citizenship, and to even say someone kicking a goal is a 'hero' , must make some army , police , firemen fellas wonder what the word hero means!
Media making up a story. Shocking.
It came out after the initial bullshit died down that every time Cooper had applied he had fucked up either his days per year as resident or his consecutive days as resident. Those are key markers to decide an application and show a commitment.
He needs to simply get an immigration consultant to mark his calendar so he doesn't fuck up again. If he had applied years ago when his main Oz rugby career was ongoing he probably wouldn't have had a problem but he waited until he was doing stints playing and working overseas. -
In a weird turn of events, Keohane has owned his comments
https://twitter.com/MorganTurinui/status/1437542605131161600?s=20
And Robbie Kempson wants a penalty for the Boks' scrum imploding in the dying moments.
