Wallabies v Springboks II
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Right to copy some shit I posted elsewhere:
Our discipline still needs work and our high ball defense was ordinary.
Boks didn't fire a shot - think they got sucked into trying to play a bit wide, and then went back to their maul which was providing them zero go-forward after initial penalty wins there.
The balance of personnel is about right for the Wallabies BUT Koroibete is a target for high kicks, and while Hodge grew into the game, he looks like he's lacking confidence. Some good counterattack from us which is good to see - heads-up play lacking the last few years
Where to for the Boks?
They're not fit enough.
They're not creative enough.
Their cohesion shows exactly what they are: a team picked from across the world with limited time together executing a limited game plan that is fairly easily blunted.
ABs by 30 next week.@nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
Right to copy some shit I posted elsewhere:
Our discipline still needs work and our high ball defense was ordinary.
Boks didn't fire a shot - think they got sucked into trying to play a bit wide, and then went back to their maul which was providing them zero go-forward after initial penalty wins there.
The balance of personnel is about right for the Wallabies BUT Koroibete is a target for high kicks, and while Hodge grew into the game, he looks like he's lacking confidence. Some good counterattack from us which is good to see - heads-up play lacking the last few years
Where to for the Boks?
They're not fit enough.
They're not creative enough.
Their cohesion shows exactly what they are: a team picked from across the world with limited time together executing a limited game plan that is fairly easily blunted.
ABs by 30 next week.Yep, they were God awful under the bombs. Hodge was copping no end of shit and the crowd cheered ironically when he finally caught one. Korobiete was probably worse though. Get rid of Swindon as well. That hideous caveman is almost a card a game player.
The Boks were just shit. But tbh that isn't the first time I've gone to Suncorp and seen them get touched up. For whatever reason they don't seem to care about losing to Australia but go psycho against NZ. Having said that, they seemed up for these games so maybe they really are just a mediocre side
. That backline was hopeless. Le Roux has to be the most overrated player in the game. -
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
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Goes to show the difference that a competent, experienced 10 running the cutter makes. Quade deserves all the attention he is getting.
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Any update on citings? That hit at the end looked like something you'd sit for a few weeks and a red card
@nzzp said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
Any update on citings? That hit at the end looked like something you'd sit for a few weeks and a red card
Maybe Scott Barrett will be the second Barrett to get his red card revoked, it was the same thing
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That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule.
The Springboks, however, are the strongest argument for making sure we don't just open the floodgates.
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@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule.
The Springboks, however, are the strongest argument for making sure we don't just open the floodgates.
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@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@nta True, but nobody is suggesting that either.
Lots of people are. Like Andrew Kellaway, I guess he has a good overseas offer for next season!
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@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@nta True, but nobody is suggesting that either.
Lots of people are. Like Andrew Kellaway, I guess he has a good overseas offer for next season!
@machpants I haven't seen anyone calling for a complete shift to overseas selection without any qualification requirements. Anyone I respect, anyway.
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That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
Kerevi was 100% the biggest weapon. Caused carnage virtually every time he touched the ball and has a great cut out pass.
Cooper's biggest contribution is that he's stopped the silly shit and is now a safe pair of hands.
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@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
Kerevi was 100% the biggest weapon. Caused carnage virtually every time he touched the ball and has a great cut out pass.
Cooper's biggest contribution is that he's stopped the silly shit and is now a safe pair of hands.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
Kerevi was 100% the biggest weapon. Caused carnage virtually every time he touched the ball and has a great cut out pass.
Cooper's biggest contribution is that he's stopped the silly shit and is now a safe pair of hands.
And defence, 100% and second highest tackles. Amazing!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
Kerevi was 100% the biggest weapon. Caused carnage virtually every time he touched the ball and has a great cut out pass.
Cooper's biggest contribution is that he's stopped the silly shit and is now a safe pair of hands.
And defence, 100% and second highest tackles. Amazing!
@machpants said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@barbarian said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
That was fun to watch, the best we've played since the 2019 Perth Bledisloe.
For all the talk of kicking and mauling, the Bok game plan relies mainly on defence. Physical brick wall defence that starves you of points and creates opportunities on the counter.
But when you miss tackles and mis-read like they did today then the whole thing falls apart very quickly.
I was impressed with how we converted our chances, which was something we've struggled with under Rennie. We exploited space well and didn't force it with stupid cross-kicks or triple cut passes.
Samu Kerevi has been the revelation, and the strongest argument possible for relaxing the Giteau rule. His introduction has changed our season. Quade gets the attention, but it's Kerevi who has won us games.
Also a great game from Len Ikitau who is a lovely understated 13 with a great left boot. Great to see him hitting his straps.
Kerevi was 100% the biggest weapon. Caused carnage virtually every time he touched the ball and has a great cut out pass.
Cooper's biggest contribution is that he's stopped the silly shit and is now a safe pair of hands.
And defence, 100% and second highest tackles. Amazing!
I may have bagged him in the past for his tackling (and he should be a good tackler, can hit like Muhammad Ali apparently) but always an exciting player to watch and good to see he has worked on his weak points.
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@nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/1439139873558917121?s=19
Ran a fantastic line across the field just like a quality flanker, and then hit that ruck with power and excellent technique like a flanker. He’s wearing the wrong number on his back
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@machpants said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
"it could not be any tighter" um, 12 all would be tighter
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@nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/1439139873558917121?s=19
Ran a fantastic line across the field just like a quality flanker, and then hit that ruck with power and excellent technique like a flanker. He’s wearing the wrong number on his back
@act-crusader said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/1439139873558917121?s=19
Ran a fantastic line across the field just like a quality flanker, and then hit that ruck with power and excellent technique like a flanker. He’s wearing the wrong number on his back
His line was originally towards the posts to cover any kicks, like a fulback, and then into that ruck. He was awesome all game
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@act-crusader said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
@nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/1439139873558917121?s=19
Ran a fantastic line across the field just like a quality flanker, and then hit that ruck with power and excellent technique like a flanker. He’s wearing the wrong number on his back
His line was originally towards the posts to cover any kicks, like a fulback, and then into that ruck. He was awesome all game
@machpants said in Wallabies v Springboks II:
His line was originally towards the posts to cover any kicks, like a fulback
As the winger on the far side from the action, default action as the open winger and fullback coathanger in defence.
Could never accuse Koroibete of dodging hard work. And thankfully it looks like the rest of the team are starting to catch up to him and Hooper in the effort stakes.
Looking at these last 2 games it gives me a bit of confidence that we're not only moving in the right direction, but not actually that far off the pace as far as the ABs are concerned.
Just that their attack is so elastic the punishment for counterattack or intercept passes is large.
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Biggest pile of pussy hurt I've heard in a while
Pollard concedes they didn’t handle the tactics from the “street smart “ Wallabies who he felt had been allowed to get away with dubious off the ball actions.
"They are very street smart. They definitely train it and the referees don't see everything. If they pick it up now and then, great, and we do prep the refs on that as well," Pollard said.
"It's very difficult to see a lot of stuff off the ball with the refs focusing on the ball and breakdown. They're good at it.
"They do it very well and they get away with it 90% of the time. We don't do that, we don't coach that and we don't play the game that way, but it's not a problem if they want to do it.
"We should handle it, and that's about it."
They spend all their training time on how to fake an injury instead
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Biggest pile of pussy hurt I've heard in a while
Pollard concedes they didn’t handle the tactics from the “street smart “ Wallabies who he felt had been allowed to get away with dubious off the ball actions.
"They are very street smart. They definitely train it and the referees don't see everything. If they pick it up now and then, great, and we do prep the refs on that as well," Pollard said.
"It's very difficult to see a lot of stuff off the ball with the refs focusing on the ball and breakdown. They're good at it.
"They do it very well and they get away with it 90% of the time. We don't do that, we don't coach that and we don't play the game that way, but it's not a problem if they want to do it.
"We should handle it, and that's about it."
They spend all their training time on how to fake an injury instead
@machpants are the Wallabies a dirty team now?
Could be the influence of their "street smart" coach ... he must have learnt his trade on the rough streets of the concrete jungle* they call Upper Hutt...*https://www.huttvalleynz.com/experience/see-and-do/upper-hutt/
basically a suburban Jumanji with a bit more wind...
