Northland v Waikato
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@arhs said in Northland v Waikato:
@machpants said in Northland v Waikato:
@arhs said in Northland v Waikato:
Scared for who. Okara Park has been a banana skin for Waikato
You've not watched the last two games then? Undefeated Waikato versus can play 40 minutes Taniwha. I hope they come up cocky and come a cropper, but I can't see it
Hope you have some decent glasses now.
I had several glasses, yes!
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Northland v Waikato in the last decade:
https://www.thesilverfern.com/npc-results/?newestfirst=true&type=team&season=2021&opp=waikato&loc=all&start=2011&team=northland&end=2021@duluth said in Northland v Waikato:
Northland v Waikato in the last decade:
https://www.thesilverfern.com/npc-results/?newestfirst=true&type=team&season=2021&opp=waikato&loc=all&start=2011&team=northland&end=2021Just skimmed through for the other teams Northland has a positive record against in the last decade
Against Won Lost Waikato 5 3 Southland 5 4 That's it
Other ones I checked
Against Won Lost Otago 5 6 BOP 4 5 Manawatu 2 9 The Manawatu record is as surprising as the Waikato one
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@taniwharugby winners are grinners. There is no doubt ( picking up from something Steven said ) that you need a % of your team operating at a level to compete and win. Key players for me in this regard are:
Olsen
Goodhue
Caird*
Pryor*
Nock
Ranger*
Macalai*The ones with * have either come in late to team or recovered from injuries. But with them all together, playing well and a few others contributing we looked good.
The disappointing thing for me is the development of the younger players. We seem unable to develop these promising players. And to my mind this not the players fault. We have so many good young players in and around this squad - we need to do better.
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@taniwharugby winners are grinners. There is no doubt ( picking up from something Steven said ) that you need a % of your team operating at a level to compete and win. Key players for me in this regard are:
Olsen
Goodhue
Caird*
Pryor*
Nock
Ranger*
Macalai*The ones with * have either come in late to team or recovered from injuries. But with them all together, playing well and a few others contributing we looked good.
The disappointing thing for me is the development of the younger players. We seem unable to develop these promising players. And to my mind this not the players fault. We have so many good young players in and around this squad - we need to do better.
@kev yeah and continuing with players like Hohaia and Hawkins year in year out is not helping development...Hawkins guided us round last night, but Cooper should have been starting or persist with Reihana, he needs game time to develop, this season is toast in all ways.
They messed him about last year too. Tua needs time in the midfield, alongside Ranger last night would have been ideal.
Look at how Gregory is struggling, when he should be one of our go to guys after the Super season, but he isn't even looking upto this level often this season
I think Dewes is doing a good job with our set piece, but overall tactics and defence is not ideal...
I hear mixed stuff about Konia....We need guys like Corey Evans and any number of talented northland kids as well as aspiring Blues players to want to come up here, but our development and play has been so up and down the past few seasons why would they?
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@kev yeah and continuing with players like Hohaia and Hawkins year in year out is not helping development...Hawkins guided us round last night, but Cooper should have been starting or persist with Reihana, he needs game time to develop, this season is toast in all ways.
They messed him about last year too. Tua needs time in the midfield, alongside Ranger last night would have been ideal.
Look at how Gregory is struggling, when he should be one of our go to guys after the Super season, but he isn't even looking upto this level often this season
I think Dewes is doing a good job with our set piece, but overall tactics and defence is not ideal...
I hear mixed stuff about Konia....We need guys like Corey Evans and any number of talented northland kids as well as aspiring Blues players to want to come up here, but our development and play has been so up and down the past few seasons why would they?
@taniwharugby said in Northland v Waikato:
@kev yeah and continuing with players like Hohaia and Hawkins year in year out is not helping development...Hawkins guided us round last night, but Cooper should have been starting or persist with Reihana, he needs game time to develop, this season is toast in all ways.
They messed him about last year too. Tua needs time in the midfield, alongside Ranger last night would have been ideal.
Look at how Gregory is struggling, when he should be one of our go to guys after the Super season, but he isn't even looking upto this level often this season
I think Dewes is doing a good job with our set piece, but overall tactics and defence is not ideal...
I hear mixed stuff about Konia....We need guys like Corey Evans and any number of talented northland kids as well as aspiring Blues players to want to come up here, but our development and play has been so up and down the past few seasons why would they?
Tua looked good before injury last year. If he stays on the field ( ?) he can break into Super Rugby. Reihana, Johnny Cooper, Gregory, both Rush’s are developing players who need support. I feel sorry for Noah Cooper who must ask why he was dropped vs some others. Our squad was so so far off the pace in the first two games - just said so much about their poor preparation.
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That was a pretty good performance. Hopefully we can build from that. I thought that was definitely our packs best performance of the season - bar a couple of scrums and 2 or 3 lineouts. I think that was a good balance to the pack - particularly in the loosies. Surprised to hear that was Faukafa's first game at 8. He seems well suited to it, hopefully he carrys on that form - it's good having a big ball runner at 8.
Been good to see Justin Davies have another go at playing for Northland - always rated him in his first stint. Looks like he wasn't expecting to be playing this level again but going well - scrum improved once he came on.
I think we need to fit Tamati Tua in somewhere. While Gregory is injured he should be at 12, once Gregory is back then probably should go to the right wing. He's too good to sit on the bench. Just on Gregory - I can't understand why we would play one of our best players out of position at centre. Just put him at 12 and leave him there - if he can do it in SR he can surely do it in NPC.
We need to get Macilai on the ball more - still a massive weapon at this level.
Was Reihanas best game for Northland - will be interesting to see if 15 is his best position or whether he just enjoyed being on the front foot more. Think it was a good call to have Hawkins do the goal kicking and Reihana do most of the out of hand kicking.
You slot Robinson, Tua and Gregory back into that team and it does start to have a strong look about it.
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@taniwharugby said in Northland v Waikato:
@kev yeah and continuing with players like Hohaia and Hawkins year in year out is not helping development...Hawkins guided us round last night, but Cooper should have been starting or persist with Reihana, he needs game time to develop, this season is toast in all ways.
They messed him about last year too. Tua needs time in the midfield, alongside Ranger last night would have been ideal.
Look at how Gregory is struggling, when he should be one of our go to guys after the Super season, but he isn't even looking upto this level often this season
I think Dewes is doing a good job with our set piece, but overall tactics and defence is not ideal...
I hear mixed stuff about Konia....We need guys like Corey Evans and any number of talented northland kids as well as aspiring Blues players to want to come up here, but our development and play has been so up and down the past few seasons why would they?
Tua looked good before injury last year. If he stays on the field ( ?) he can break into Super Rugby. Reihana, Johnny Cooper, Gregory, both Rush’s are developing players who need support. I feel sorry for Noah Cooper who must ask why he was dropped vs some others. Our squad was so so far off the pace in the first two games - just said so much about their poor preparation.
@kev yeah there was no reason to drop Noah after last week.
Plenty others deserved dropping, but he has looked the part at the back.
Sure Rivez played well at 15, but he was probably most deserving of being dropped after last week...Johnny Cooper had a nice cameo last week, also dropped...reinstated Hawkins, again, played solidly, but seriously that is a step back in our development going to him, again.
With a bye before our next game, I assume we will have Gregory, Tua, Hohaia and Ranger to choose from for our midfield, Hyland, Rush, Leilua, Macilai, Cooper, Roberts-Te Nana to choose from in our back 3....
@Chiefy07 I mentioned that at the time Re Macilai, unless he was injured youd have rocks in your.head taking him off.
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@dice the origin of the Turtle...iirc Rangers was in response to the move Digby Ioane was busting out at the time
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUe6uB0Fieu/?utm_medium=copy_link
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@dice said in Northland v Waikato:
Saw Joe Rok's comment on this post.
So I went looking for the Ranger one.
They only managed to get a glimpse of it before cutting away.
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@dice the origin of the Turtle...iirc Rangers was in response to the move Digby Ioane was busting out at the time
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUe6uB0Fieu/?utm_medium=copy_link
@taniwharugby said in Northland v Waikato:
@dice the origin of the Turtle...iirc Rangers was in response to the move Digby Ioane was busting out at the time
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUe6uB0Fieu/?utm_medium=copy_link
Geez, I missed your post.
