Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour
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Don't mind this starting lineup minus TJP.
Front row will hopefully show up a little, Laualala in particular needs a big game.
I like the midfield pairing, though I think things are heating up in the 12 race between Havili and Tupaea so I'm a little gutted to not see Tupaea at least on the bench.
Crazy to think the Beauden is playing his 100th.
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@act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park
a fantastic rugby player. Pace, good vision for a half opportunity, and a willingness to chance his arm.
His highlight reel would be pretty fucking sweet.
100 for the ABs is really quite something considering how hard we have been on selection.
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https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19
Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.
Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.
@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19
Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.
Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.
Akira's stock went down a bit vs Blackadder's against the Boks.
Foster is rewarding performance and rightly so.
Still hoping can go beast mode against very physical teams.
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@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.
An open roof and the expected rain will mean more kicking from both TJP and BB.
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@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.
An open roof and the expected rain will mean more kicking from both TJP and BB.
@bovidae said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.
Hopefully Havili has been practising timing his runs...
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my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
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my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
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@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
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@mariner4life Kerevi would shit in to this team.
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life Kerevi would shit in to this team.
i would cut off 2 fingers of my left hand for him
fuck i would take 2021 Quade too...
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my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
especially when often if he busts through 2 or 3 tacklers, and then goes to deck it can isolate him behind them.
In regard to your point re BB and getting a hundy...a decade ago, we had 2 players on 100 tests, now we are about to have 11.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
...and a 12 that doesn't exactly crab but does drift....
This is why I think that the backline itself functions much straighter with (surprisingly) DMac. I think his passing game from 10 has come on hugely and he looks to feed runners into gaps with well placed passes a lot more. That means the others don't slide to look for gaps as much and end up with 3 guys in a 5 metre outside channel.
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@act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park
a fantastic rugby player. Pace, good vision for a half opportunity, and a willingness to chance his arm.
His highlight reel would be pretty fucking sweet.
100 for the ABs is really quite something considering how hard we have been on selection.
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park
a fantastic rugby player. Pace, good vision for a half opportunity, and a willingness to chance his arm.
His highlight reel would be pretty fucking sweet.
100 for the ABs is really quite something considering how hard we have been on selection.
He'll draw level with Mils in this test. Level with Aaron Smith if he plays again this tour and likely end the season one test behind Nonu.
As long as he sticks around till the next RWC and without serious injuries he'll surely overtake DC as the most-capped back. He'll be in a tussle with Smith for that, though.
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I know this Wales "B", but selecting only two lineout options in the starting XV seems rather odd.
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I know this Wales "B", but selecting only two lineout options in the starting XV seems rather odd.
2003 called and it wants its glaring deficiency back
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I know this Wales "B", but selecting only two lineout options in the starting XV seems rather odd.
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I know this Wales "B", but selecting only two lineout options in the starting XV seems rather odd.
I think most loose forwards are expected to have some skill in the lineout, anyone have stats on which loosies are most used, I would think Akira must be up there.
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3 interesting points for me;
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Loose forward trio and Akira relegated to the bench. He was awesome versus the Wallabies/Pumas but that was on dry tracks and versus sides that played more open rugby which gave him more opportunities. Looks like the thinking here is to start with a high workrate loose forward trio to wear down the Welsh and bring Akira on in the last 20 for impact.
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Persisting with Havili and ALB in midfield. IMO Havili is in same camp as Akira in that against the Fijians/Wallabies/Pumas ie, more space he flourished. Versus the Boks, rush pressure defence he was found wanting. I'd prefer to see an ALB/Reiko Ioane midfield. ALB has enough in him to provide punch in tight situations using footwork in his carry from 12. Tupaea has potential as he continues to develop.
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First Five and I think given it's BB's 100th test it might given him the nod. IMO Mounga is clearly our top 10 with his speed of passing, kicking game superior to BB IMO. He needs a strong 12 (like the Cooper/Kerevi midfield) to help him though. I don't think Havili is it especially against the Boks/England.
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I think Jacobson, QT, SB slightly unlucky but can't deny Blackadders workrate and commitment. They must see TV as a more impactful lock replacement going forward. I think TJP must be the luckiest selection after his efforts last week. One bonus is to have such competition in the team.
@chimoaus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I think Jacobson, QT, SB slightly unlucky but can't deny Blackadders workrate and commitment. They must see TV as a more impactful lock replacement going forward. I think TJP must be the luckiest selection after his efforts last week. One bonus is to have such competition in the team.
Scott Barrett returned home after the final match against the Springboks.
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@chimoaus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I think Jacobson, QT, SB slightly unlucky but can't deny Blackadders workrate and commitment. They must see TV as a more impactful lock replacement going forward. I think TJP must be the luckiest selection after his efforts last week. One bonus is to have such competition in the team.
Scott Barrett returned home after the final match against the Springboks.
@toddy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@chimoaus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I think Jacobson, QT, SB slightly unlucky but can't deny Blackadders workrate and commitment. They must see TV as a more impactful lock replacement going forward. I think TJP must be the luckiest selection after his efforts last week. One bonus is to have such competition in the team.
Scott Barrett returned home after the final match against the Springboks.
part of our issue up front is that this year SB is our best performing lock. Problem is, SB has a low ceiling. If our pack is ever going to go anywhere we need to find guys capable of better.
