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Building myself back up

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Seems like my life going forward is getting up at 4:45 so am doing that. At least getting to bed by 10 so could be worse.

    So hit gym before swim today. Bit rushed by those sessions are often the best. Due to the lovely weather Hitler decided that in and out season has begun so that's what it was.

    Following warm-up set was:

    25 Max
    25 easy
    25 Max
    25 easy
    Then out of pool and
    10x push-ups, ball slams, squats, dips and burpees

    Rinse and repeat for 50 minutes.

    Destroyed

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      @mn5 said in Building myself back up:

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      Boot camp this morning. Looked at the sums and decided that I couldn't really justify paying for the BC so the GF and I are doing our own one every Wednesday. The social aspect was nice but I want to go up a gear and not pay for something that was getting a bit easy. In summer I might see if Hitler can set me a separate programme involving in and outs from the pool. Happily pay for that.

      Anyway GF organises a mean boot camp. 8 different exercises (40 sec on 20 off) x 4 with (50 sec on 10 sec off for that last one). In between each round is either 500m row or 250 elliptical/step. Good shit but the sled absolutely farks me. Might have to work on the breathing or something. Going box jumps, sled, battle ropes then wall balls is murder. Finished off with a 5km run. Hate treadmill but the lap feature is cool. Do one fast and then one moderate. Boring as hell though.

      This whole fitness thing is becoming something of an obsession now. I'm getting up earlier and earlier and if I don't swim in the evenings I go for walks listening to podcasts. I haven't eaten chips or sweets for well over a month. I'm not sure I even know why. Am I living life or missing out on some good stuff? All I know is that I feel compelled to do this and if I didn't have to work would be doing even more. Could be worse addictions I guess.

      I hear ya to some extent ( although I did have chips during the fight, loads of them ! )

      If I can’t work out I get really antsy especially if I have planned to, There was a family relaxing a few days back near my “tire” so I didn’t really feel it was fair to go and interrupt their peace by going to smash the thing like a madman……but I was really restless when I got back cos I had some energy to burn. Not ideal.

      Would have been interesting to see their reaction if you walked up to them with a sledgehammer.

      But yeah I don't like to force people to move. It's annoying but I'm not so entitled to think that I deserve to be there more than them. Unlike say....cyclists.

      And the excess energy is tough when you're mentally geared towards doing something. If I arrive at swimming training and it's cancelled then I'm at a bit of loss. Back in the day I would have been "Choice" time for beer and TV.

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      @rancid-schnitzel like turning up to the gym with a specific exercise in mind to kick off your workout, and then all the stations/machines/racks you could do it on are occupied...first world problems haha

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        Woken by that ginger cnut of cat at 3:45 when he brought a baby possum in. Ffs. Tried to sleep after that but was futile so went for a run before swimming. Good swimming session then another hour of intervals and various cardio. The human body is so retarded. Despite the crap sleep I absolutely smashed it today and that is often my experience. That makes no sense.

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          Up at 4:45 every day this week. Usually wake up around 4:30 and doze until the body and mind tell me to get tf out of bed. Going OK as long as I can get to bed early enough I guess.

          Today I hit gym for back and tris and then pool for Hitler's session. Båstard chucked bear crawls in there this time. After 1 km of various swimming shit we then went:

          25m Max, then
          15 push-ups
          15 squats
          Bear crawls back to the other end of the pool
          15 ball slams
          15 dips
          15 burpees
          Then repeat

          Managed 6 of these before I had to leave to get son to school. Went OK actually. Not nearly as wrecked as GFs boot camp on Wednesday. That farking sled is a torture device 😳

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            Shit 12 days.

            More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

            But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

            Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

            Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

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            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

              Shit 12 days.

              More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

              But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

              Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

              Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

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              @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

              Shit 12 days.

              More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

              But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

              Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

              Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

              I was always astonished when I read how much Michael Phelps ate but he was ripped to kingdom come. I think its ok to carb pre load provided you burn it off but it’s definitely about getting that balance completely right. It’s niggly when you don’t get that workout in and you can’t justify the big feed !

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                @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

                Shit 12 days.

                More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

                But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

                Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

                Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

                I was always astonished when I read how much Michael Phelps ate but he was ripped to kingdom come. I think its ok to carb pre load provided you burn it off but it’s definitely about getting that balance completely right. It’s niggly when you don’t get that workout in and you can’t justify the big feed !

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                @mn5 said in Building myself back up:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

                Shit 12 days.

                More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

                But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

                Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

                Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

                I was always astonished when I read how much Michael Phelps ate but he was ripped to kingdom come. I think its ok to carb pre load provided you burn it off but it’s definitely about getting that balance completely right. It’s niggly when you don’t get that workout in and you can’t justify the big feed !

                I'm half way through the 4 hour body diet and he talks about Phelps and his 12,000 calorie days. Says it's basically impossible to burn that so looked into it in greater depth.

                It all comes down to thermal conductivity (TC) and the amount of additional energy that Phelps was using by exercising in the water. Because the TC in water is 26x what it is in air, you use 400% of what you would normally use. Basically the water literally sucks the heat/energy out of you.

                I think given you swim so much, you might be vastly underestimating the level of calories you need.

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                  @mn5 said in Building myself back up:

                  @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

                  Shit 12 days.

                  More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

                  But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

                  Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

                  Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

                  I was always astonished when I read how much Michael Phelps ate but he was ripped to kingdom come. I think its ok to carb pre load provided you burn it off but it’s definitely about getting that balance completely right. It’s niggly when you don’t get that workout in and you can’t justify the big feed !

                  I'm half way through the 4 hour body diet and he talks about Phelps and his 12,000 calorie days. Says it's basically impossible to burn that so looked into it in greater depth.

                  It all comes down to thermal conductivity (TC) and the amount of additional energy that Phelps was using by exercising in the water. Because the TC in water is 26x what it is in air, you use 400% of what you would normally use. Basically the water literally sucks the heat/energy out of you.

                  I think given you swim so much, you might be vastly underestimating the level of calories you need.

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                  @majorrage said in Building myself back up:

                  @mn5 said in Building myself back up:

                  @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

                  Shit 12 days.

                  More of the same really although had 4 days up North which was much needed. There was a gym and pool at hotel so probably ended up being even more active.

                  But have decided to take a bit of action in terms of diet. It's clearly no longer in tune with the volume of training and that has to change. Going to get a body scan and then talk to a dietician.

                  Yesterday I absolutely hit the wall and started eating everything in sight. I'm obviously not maintaining any more and getting too lean and the body is not happy. Don't want to be that guy who has health problems because of a lifestyle that is too healthy!

                  Ultimately, I want to continue to exercise this much because I really enjoy it and it's important for me mentally. But that requires fuel and I've really dropped the ball on that one. So best to talk to an expert rather than muddle about myself.

                  I was always astonished when I read how much Michael Phelps ate but he was ripped to kingdom come. I think its ok to carb pre load provided you burn it off but it’s definitely about getting that balance completely right. It’s niggly when you don’t get that workout in and you can’t justify the big feed !

                  I'm half way through the 4 hour body diet and he talks about Phelps and his 12,000 calorie days. Says it's basically impossible to burn that so looked into it in greater depth.

                  It all comes down to thermal conductivity (TC) and the amount of additional energy that Phelps was using by exercising in the water. Because the TC in water is 26x what it is in air, you use 400% of what you would normally use. Basically the water literally sucks the heat/energy out of you.

                  I think given you swim so much, you might be vastly underestimating the level of calories you need.

                  Yeah, I think that's the definately the case. It's always been a common factor among swimmers and iron men competitors that they require stupid amounts of food to refuel. Nutrigrain is false advertising. It's only "Iron Man Food" insofar as only Iron Men can eat that sugary crap without becoming a fat arse.

                  I've been advised to use Dextrose in my protein shakes. Apparently it helps against low blood sugar. It's a common ingredient in certain beer apparently so will be interesting to see if it has an effect.

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                    10km city run on Sunday. Managed 43 minutes, so pretty bloody stoked with that. Was a cool event. Should do more of these. Lucky to make the start though. Guts playing up before the start and it was a miracle I made it through the porter potty line in time. No pleasant but job done.

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                      This week has gone stupid quick!

                      Had a mini cheat day yesterday which I was a bit ashamed about but think it was the best thing for the body. Had Covid jab on Monday and didn't let up on any exercise which probably wasn't smart but I'm not very smart.

                      Ginga cnut woke me at 4:30 this morning so I just got up. Good back and tris session at gym then a solid Hitler session:
                      50m Max
                      50m moderate
                      Then 30 seconds each of squats, dips, burpees, pushups and core.

                      Says something about my swimming ability that I find the land exercises the "easy" part.

                      Good session and made me feel less guilty about the previous day's excesses.

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                        Pretty good week training wise, moreso because for some reason I've hammered it at the gym. Not sure if it was intensity, but damn I've been feeling it the day after. Makes swimming even more important for recovery.

                        Today I smashed back and triceps at the gym then went straight to Hitler. Felt like asking for an easyish pool session but hardened the fook up and accepted the challenge:
                        25m Max (few breaths as possible)
                        then burpees, dips and mountain climbers ×15 each
                        Another 25m Max
                        then jump squats, a core exercise I don't know the name of, and push-ups x 15.

                        That was harsh. Managed 6 before I had to leave so was pretty happy with that but am feeling it now. Not sure why the fark I'm doing this but I'm full on addicted now.

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                        • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                          Pretty good week training wise, moreso because for some reason I've hammered it at the gym. Not sure if it was intensity, but damn I've been feeling it the day after. Makes swimming even more important for recovery.

                          Today I smashed back and triceps at the gym then went straight to Hitler. Felt like asking for an easyish pool session but hardened the fook up and accepted the challenge:
                          25m Max (few breaths as possible)
                          then burpees, dips and mountain climbers ×15 each
                          Another 25m Max
                          then jump squats, a core exercise I don't know the name of, and push-ups x 15.

                          That was harsh. Managed 6 before I had to leave so was pretty happy with that but am feeling it now. Not sure why the fark I'm doing this but I'm full on addicted now.

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                          @rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:

                          Pretty good weak training wise, moreso because for some reason I've hammered it at the gym. Not sure if it was intensity, but damn I've been feeling it the day after. Makes swimming even more important for recovery.

                          Today I smashed back and triceps at the gym then went straight to Hitler. Felt like asking for an easyish pool session but hardened the fook up and accepted the challenge:
                          25m Max (few breaths as possible)
                          then burpees, dips and mountain climbers ×15 each
                          Another 25m Max
                          then jump squats, a core exercise I don't know the name of, and push-ups x 15.

                          That was harsh. Managed 6 before I had to leave so was pretty happy with that but am feeling it now. Not sure why the fark I'm doing this but I'm full on addicted now.

                          I prefer being strong

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                            Boulder shoulder training this morning. Very nice.

                            Weekend was a bit of a struggle. Ran 10km and did pool session but was knackered for most of it. Had been a bloody tough week so maybe that was it. Still haven't changed diet too much so that definitely has to be on the to do list.

                            Was quite funny at lunch. Got together with an old group of friends and family from school. My GF was loudly insisting that I had to order two meals because I needed to get my calories up. There was a great deal of mirth about that. I had a cheeseburger with fries and a schnitzel with fries and hoovered up any uneaten meals.

                            What was cool was that 2 friends had recently had a good look in the mirror and have lost stacks. It was amazing actually. Trouble is that the couple who set the whole thing up are dangerously overweight and drink like fish. They made noises about doing something about it but nothing new there. My mates used an app to help them lose weight and the female of the large couple said she was definitely downloading it, but that's the easy part. Unfortunately the app doesn't physically stop you from eating or drinking. I try to be as supportive as possible but it's really hard. If my mate doesn't keel over and die today, it will happen tomorrow. He was the best man at my wedding and I'm afraid I'm going to be a pallbearer at his funeral very soon. But in these ridiculous times even mentioning it is taboo. It's crazy.

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                              8 days! Slack. But I suppose more of the same although I fell off the wagon on Thursday and ate like a maniac. When I'm in that zone then it's incredible how much I can put away. I think its because I'm doing even more cardio helping my son with delivering pamphlets. Due to school commitments I had to do most of it myself. So I guess a day with bootcamp, pamphlet route and swimming demands more fuel. Definitely have to get chatting to a dietician rather than talking about it. I'm probably going to try the GC half-marathon (Saturday) and marathon (Sunday) next year so will need some proper advice.

                              Going to also get one of those body scan things during the holidays. Should be interesting.

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                                8 days! Slack. But I suppose more of the same although I fell off the wagon on Thursday and ate like a maniac. When I'm in that zone then it's incredible how much I can put away. I think its because I'm doing even more cardio helping my son with delivering pamphlets. Due to school commitments I had to do most of it myself. So I guess a day with bootcamp, pamphlet route and swimming demands more fuel. Definitely have to get chatting to a dietician rather than talking about it. I'm probably going to try the GC half-marathon (Saturday) and marathon (Sunday) next year so will need some proper advice.

                                Going to also get one of those body scan things during the holidays. Should be interesting.

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                                @rancid-schnitzel yeah I've had one of them done, will get another in the New Year, where I will be c 5kg lower than my last one, so that'll be interesting.

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                                  Overdid it on the weekend, both with the training and eating. The heat is becoming so intense that going run, swim then intervals is just silly and probably a bit dangerous.

                                  Just as silly was the eating. 10 wheatbix with protein powder and fruit for breakfast, then 4 rice cakes, 4 schnitzels and noodles, 3 protein bars, a large lamb kebab and large chips, a small tub of ice cream, a pizza, a pack of beef ravioli and 2 quesadillas. I probably could have eaten more but I fell asleep.

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                                    Overdid it on the weekend, both with the training and eating. The heat is becoming so intense that going run, swim then intervals is just silly and probably a bit dangerous.

                                    Just as silly was the eating. 10 wheatbix with protein powder and fruit for breakfast, then 4 rice cakes, 4 schnitzels and noodles, 3 protein bars, a large lamb kebab and large chips, a small tub of ice cream, a pizza, a pack of beef ravioli and 2 quesadillas. I probably could have eaten more but I fell asleep.

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                                    @rancid-schnitzel holy shit, thats alot of food!

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                                      @rancid-schnitzel holy shit, thats alot of food!

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:

                                      @rancid-schnitzel holy shit, thats alot of food!

                                      It’s a massive amount. He should be fat like other ferners, not the lean whippet that he is !!!!

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                                        Overdid it on the weekend, both with the training and eating. The heat is becoming so intense that going run, swim then intervals is just silly and probably a bit dangerous.

                                        Just as silly was the eating. 10 wheatbix with protein powder and fruit for breakfast, then 4 rice cakes, 4 schnitzels and noodles, 3 protein bars, a large lamb kebab and large chips, a small tub of ice cream, a pizza, a pack of beef ravioli and 2 quesadillas. I probably could have eaten more but I fell asleep.

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                                        @rancid-schnitzel dude!! I hope that all didn't come out at once :flushed_face:

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:

                                          @rancid-schnitzel holy shit, thats alot of food!

                                          It’s a massive amount. He should be fat like other ferners, not the lean whippet that he is !!!!

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                                          @mn5 said in Building myself back up:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:

                                          @rancid-schnitzel holy shit, thats alot of food!

                                          It’s a massive amount. He should be fat like other ferners, not the lean whippet that he is !!!!

                                          You get a big appetite when you do 3 hours of exercise in the morning. I'm just effed in the head.

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