Wales v Australia
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@bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Wallabies skipper Michael Hooper has been ruled out of his side's season finale in Cardiff after suffering a foot injury in Saturday's loss to England.
Hooper left the field in the 54th minute of the 32-15 loss at Twickenham, before scans on Monday confirmed the flanker had suffered a grade two mid-foot sprain.Is Samu the only option for 7?
I am told Colby Fainga'a is with the squad.
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@nta
What are your confidence levels for the game?From a Welsh perspective, after the SA game I thought we might be in with a decent chance against you. After the Fiji game, I think you'll do a number on us
@gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.
Fuck knows.
I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.
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@gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.
Fuck knows.
I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.
@nta said in Aussie Rugby:
@gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.
Fuck knows.
I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.
Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.
Real shame about Hooper. It's certainly going to be two makeshift teams scraping it out. I'm making Aus decent favourites if only because I reckon Rennie's much more capable of cobbling together a vaguely functional team from whatever spare parts are lying around.
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@nta said in Aussie Rugby:
@gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.
Fuck knows.
I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.
Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.
Real shame about Hooper. It's certainly going to be two makeshift teams scraping it out. I'm making Aus decent favourites if only because I reckon Rennie's much more capable of cobbling together a vaguely functional team from whatever spare parts are lying around.
@gibbon-rib said in Aussie Rugby:
@nta said in Aussie Rugby:
@gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.
Fuck knows.
I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.
Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.
Real shame about Hooper. It's certainly going to be two makeshift teams scraping it out. I'm making Aus decent favourites if only because I reckon Rennie's much more capable of cobbling together a vaguely functional team from whatever spare parts are lying around.
Pivac is still using Gatland's playbook - at least for the backline. If we can halt that, we'll do OK. We managed to stop England's maul by and large so that is hopefully a good sign if Tupou and AAA are back.
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15 Liam Williams, 14 Louis Rees-Zammit, 13 Nick Tompkins, 12 Uilisi Halaholo, 11 Josh Adams, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Tomos Williams, 8 Aaron Wainwright, 7 Taine Basham, 6 Ellis Jenkins (c), 5 Seb Davies, 4 Adam Beard, 3 Tomas Francis, 2 Ryan Elias, 1 Wyn Jones
Reserves: 16 Elliot Dee, 17 Gareth Thomas, 18 Dillon Lewis, 19 Ben Carter, 20 Christ Tshiunza, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Rhys Priestland, 23 Johnny McNicholl
15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Andrew Kellaway, 13 Len Ikitau, 12 Hunter Paisami, 11 Filipo Daugunu, 10 James O’Connor, 9 Nic White, 8 Rob Valetini, 7 Pete Samu, 6 Rob Leota, 5 Izack Rodda, 4 Rory Arnold, 3 Taniela Tupou, 2 Tolu Latu, 1 James Slipper (c)
Reserves: 16 Folau Fainga’a, 17 Angus Bell, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Will Skelton, 20 Lachlan Swinton, 21 Tate McDermott, 22 Lalakai Foketi, 23 Tom Wright
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All polynesian backrow. Is that a first? Also (more bizarrely) all Melbourne-born backrow. Also a first you'd think.
@frye said in Wales v Australia:
All polynesian backrow. Is that a first? Also (more bizarrely) all Melbourne-born backrow. Also a first you'd think.
Shame only one of them plays in Melbourne these days!
If we actually redistributed our talent, it would do a lot more for results and development for the Aussie teams.
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15 Liam Williams, 14 Louis Rees-Zammit, 13 Nick Tompkins, 12 Uilisi Halaholo, 11 Josh Adams, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Tomos Williams, 8 Aaron Wainwright, 7 Taine Basham, 6 Ellis Jenkins (c), 5 Seb Davies, 4 Adam Beard, 3 Tomas Francis, 2 Ryan Elias, 1 Wyn Jones
Reserves: 16 Elliot Dee, 17 Gareth Thomas, 18 Dillon Lewis, 19 Ben Carter, 20 Christ Tshiunza, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Rhys Priestland, 23 Johnny McNicholl
15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Andrew Kellaway, 13 Len Ikitau, 12 Hunter Paisami, 11 Filipo Daugunu, 10 James O’Connor, 9 Nic White, 8 Rob Valetini, 7 Pete Samu, 6 Rob Leota, 5 Izack Rodda, 4 Rory Arnold, 3 Taniela Tupou, 2 Tolu Latu, 1 James Slipper (c)
Reserves: 16 Folau Fainga’a, 17 Angus Bell, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Will Skelton, 20 Lachlan Swinton, 21 Tate McDermott, 22 Lalakai Foketi, 23 Tom Wright
@duluth said in Wales v Australia:
9 Nic White
No offence to White, but this should have been Tate.
4 Rory Arnold
19 Will SkeltonSo Swain and Philip have not even made the bench for the Euro part of the tour, while these two have been completely ineffective.
Well at least Wales are missing about a hundred preferred starters, so she'll be a cripple fight.
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I've just checked the odds, and apparently Wales are favourites - 4/5 with Oz at 7/5. (I'm not a gambler, just interested in a slightly more objective view than fan sites).
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
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@duluth said in Wales v Australia:
9 Nic White
No offence to White, but this should have been Tate.
4 Rory Arnold
19 Will SkeltonSo Swain and Philip have not even made the bench for the Euro part of the tour, while these two have been completely ineffective.
Well at least Wales are missing about a hundred preferred starters, so she'll be a cripple fight.
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@duluth said in Wales v Australia:
9 Nic White
No offence to White, but this should have been Tate.
4 Rory Arnold
19 Will SkeltonSo Swain and Philip have not even made the bench for the Euro part of the tour, while these two have been completely ineffective.
Well at least Wales are missing about a hundred preferred starters, so she'll be a cripple fight.
I reckon White is too harshly marked by many. I think he's a great player. I mean, i fucking hate him, i hate the way he looks, i hate the mouth and the niggle, and, well, i hate halfbacks
but
He's a fucking competitor, goes hard all game, comes up with a lot of really good play, has zero fear, and he doesn't make that many mistakes for a guy trying as much as he is, playing behind a very inexperienced pack.
He should be nailed on for the Gold 9 jersey in any big game.
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@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@duluth said in Wales v Australia:
9 Nic White
No offence to White, but this should have been Tate.
4 Rory Arnold
19 Will SkeltonSo Swain and Philip have not even made the bench for the Euro part of the tour, while these two have been completely ineffective.
Well at least Wales are missing about a hundred preferred starters, so she'll be a cripple fight.
I reckon White is too harshly marked by many. I think he's a great player. I mean, i fucking hate him, i hate the way he looks, i hate the mouth and the niggle, and, well, i hate halfbacks
but
He's a fucking competitor, goes hard all game, comes up with a lot of really good play, has zero fear, and he doesn't make that many mistakes for a guy trying as much as he is, playing behind a very inexperienced pack.
He should be nailed on for the Gold 9 jersey in any big game.
@mariner4life this isn't against White necessarily - it is more about seeing what the Tate/JOC combo can do.
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I've just checked the odds, and apparently Wales are favourites - 4/5 with Oz at 7/5. (I'm not a gambler, just interested in a slightly more objective view than fan sites).
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
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Aus by 4-7 in a points fest
Both teams scoring more than 20
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@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Funny this year Quade Cooper appears to be the strong, calm, stabilizing influence the Wallabies miss.
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@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Funny this year Quade Cooper appears to be the strong, calm, stabilizing influence the Wallabies miss.
@nostrildamus Kerevi and Koroibete's influence as well. Half the backline
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@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
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@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
Agreed
And our nemesis, Kurtley, is playing
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@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
Agreed
And our nemesis, Kurtley, is playing
@mikethesnow said in Wales v Australia:
@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
Agreed
And our nemesis, Kurtley, is playing
I'm not sure he is the same as Kurtley of yore.
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v Australia:
@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
Agreed
And our nemesis, Kurtley, is playing
I'm not sure he is the same as Kurtley of yore.
@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v Australia:
@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
Agreed
And our nemesis, Kurtley, is playing
I'm not sure he is the same as Kurtley of yore.
I'm sure we can adjust our level accordingly
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@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
@billy-webb said in Wales v Australia:
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
That surprises me a bit. I know the Wallabies are being held together by sticky tape at the moment, but Wales are much the same. And that shambolic display against Fiji has to count for something? Fiji destroyed Wales at the breakdown. We're not ranked 9th in the world for nothing.
Agreed - Wales aren't red hot, but they still won and were pretty close against the Boks.
The Wallabies aren't that far away of course, but fuck we've shit the bed on this tour.
Wales play a game pretty similar to the Boks. Given that the Wallabies found a game plan to beat the Boks twice in a row, I would tip them for the win today.
I tend to agree with you.
I'm not sure why we're playing like this, Pivac was meant to be a breath of fresh air after the effective but dull Gatland era, but it's not quite panning out like that
