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England vs Springbokke

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  • J junior

    This match is an almost perfect illustration of the problem with the way that RSA play the game. They’ve been utterly dominant this whole half and should have been out of sight ages ago but now we’re watching them picking post match fights because they’ve not been able to get enough points to match their dominance and close out the match.

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    @junior it was not us doing the pushing and shoving for 79 minutes

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      Steven Harris
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      Que moaning out of Africa..

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      • F Frye

        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

        @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

        @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

        Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

        Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

        Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

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        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

        @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

        @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

        Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

        Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

        Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

        The problem with modern rugby is that it’s a contact sport and contact happens. The guy starts his tackle and ezebeth slips into the tackle. That’s life, physics etc. Not a card sanction.

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          Rebound
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          How the hell did Frans Steyn stay on the field after trying to knee a player on the ground. I mean his only saving was missing the head, which would've been red and a lengthy ban,but surely should've gotten 10 minutes for that flying knee

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          • J junior

            This match is an almost perfect illustration of the problem with the way that RSA play the game. They’ve been utterly dominant this whole half and should have been out of sight ages ago but now we’re watching them picking post match fights because they’ve not been able to get enough points to match their dominance and close out the match.

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            @junior also the problem wasn't the lack of points, it was the soft points conceded. Poor defence lost that game

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              akan004
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              England may have won but South Africa are clearly the better team. They dominated that second half and monstered that English pack. Teams need to stand up to their scrum, especially in the 2nd half, it's such a massive weapon for the Boks.

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                stodders
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                Welcome back South Africa, rugby's pantomime villains🤣.

                Funnily enough, SA lost in the same way they've lost to NZ in recent times. Dominance up front, but susceptible to teams that have the skills to get around the edge of their defence. Does that mean SA have a problem with teams like NZ, Oz and England 😁

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                • SmutsS Smuts

                  Remind me again which of Eben and Itoje is up for player of the year?

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                  @smuts said in England vs Springbokke:

                  Remind me again which of Eben and Itoje is up for player of the year?

                  Bad joke.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

                    Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

                    Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

                    Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

                    The problem with modern rugby is that it’s a contact sport and contact happens. The guy starts his tackle and ezebeth slips into the tackle. That’s life, physics etc. Not a card sanction.

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                    Frye
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                    @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

                    @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

                    Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

                    Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

                    Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

                    The problem with modern rugby is that it’s a contact sport and contact happens. The guy starts his tackle and ezebeth slips into the tackle. That’s life, physics etc. Not a card sanction.

                    And for those of us that have played the game to a higher standard than beer league, you can anticipate that the tackle you will be making is an assist tackle. So you adapt accordingly.

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                      stodders
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                      Kolisi is a credit to his country. Awesome human being and great captain.

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                      • F Frye

                        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

                        Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

                        Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

                        Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

                        The problem with modern rugby is that it’s a contact sport and contact happens. The guy starts his tackle and ezebeth slips into the tackle. That’s life, physics etc. Not a card sanction.

                        And for those of us that have played the game to a higher standard than beer league, you can anticipate that the tackle you will be making is an assist tackle. So you adapt accordingly.

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                        stodders
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                        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @billy-tell said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

                        @frye also correct, which further shows the protocols are wrong

                        Nah. It was a reckless swinging arm from some clumsy, journeyman oaf. Falling players happen all the time. You cant just cock and fire your arm at chest height and then be surprised that you happen to catch them in the head occasionally because they'd already been tackled (which said oaf must have realized was happening, unless he's even more clumsy than I've given him credit for).

                        Totally disagree. It was absolutely the right call.

                        Depends how seriously people are about the game continuing I guess. The more we learn about CTE, the less likely it will.

                        The problem with modern rugby is that it’s a contact sport and contact happens. The guy starts his tackle and ezebeth slips into the tackle. That’s life, physics etc. Not a card sanction.

                        And for those of us that have played the game to a higher standard than beer league, you can anticipate that the tackle you will be making is an assist tackle. So you adapt accordingly.

                        How exactly was Ewels supposed to change his position when Etzebeth whipped round and down into his tackle in a split second? It wasn't a swinging arm. He was wrapping into a tackle.

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                        • A akan004

                          England may have won but South Africa are clearly the better team. They dominated that second half and monstered that English pack. Teams need to stand up to their scrum, especially in the 2nd half, it's such a massive weapon for the Boks.

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                          SidBarret
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                          @akan004 it is this teams Achilles heel. While the all Blacks live off live off jammy af tries we need to do about two tries worth of rugby to get three points

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                            @akan004 it is this teams Achilles heel. While the all Blacks live off live off jammy af tries we need to do about two tries worth of rugby to get three points

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                            stodders
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                            @sidbarret said in England vs Springbokke:

                            @akan004 it is this teams Achilles heel. While the all Blacks live off live off jammy af tries we need to do about two tries worth of rugby to get three points

                            Not just the ABs that live off jammy tries it seems. So must be a weakness that teams see in SA, no?

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                              pakman
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                              Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

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                                Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

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                                junior
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                                @pakman said in England vs Springbokke:

                                Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

                                All he had to do was take the contact, stay on his feet long enough for his support to arrive and then earn the three points to take the lead out to 5

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  How on earth did Sth Africa lose that?

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                                  @victor-meldrew said in England vs Springbokke:

                                  How on earth did Sth Africa lose that?

                                  Too many Boks lost their rag in the last six minutes or so and their discipline went. To be fair it has been a long year for them.

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                                    Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

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                                    Smuts
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                                    @pakman yes but by that stage Kwagga was off and we’re persisting with the busted flush that is Wiese. And Dwayne has looked about half a yard off the pace all tour (year?)

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                                    • J junior

                                      @pakman said in England vs Springbokke:

                                      Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

                                      All he had to do was take the contact, stay on his feet long enough for his support to arrive and then earn the three points to take the lead out to 5

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                                      Smuts
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                                      @junior if he’d done that there was a good chance the penalty would’ve gone the other way.

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                                        Etzebeth’s line break was match winner if there’s been any Boks within 5m.

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                                        SidBarret
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                                        @pakman definitely - or if this team was just more used to creating opportunities. The pass was a poor option under circumstances. Imagine being the last defender there, you are going to trip him up, but not win the contact.

                                        Hold on, get the five meter post contact meters and we are in...

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                                          pakman
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                                          I thought Boks had it after second EE (my MOTM) lineout steal. Could have done with Frans booting it into England 22 instead of playing rugby near halfway.

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