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Wales v Australia

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    Getting a red card for that head clash just feel plain wrong, no matter how idiotic the laws are at the moment. Additionally, that happening in the 15th minute vs that happening in the 75th minute has extremely different outcomes, which is weird. Felt bad for Australia, only watched the last 20 minutes (plus saw a vid of the RC) and I dislike the way Liam Williams looks, so I'm sad.

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      @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

      @gibbon-rib mate it'll come down to how many clumsy bastards on either side injure themselves at training this week, or catch the bat flu.

      Fuck knows.

      I think if we stop the stupid offloads and sort out our discipline we're half a chance, but we're going to miss Hooper sorely.

      Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.

      Real shame about Hooper. It's certainly going to be two makeshift teams scraping it out. I'm making Aus decent favourites if only because I reckon Rennie's much more capable of cobbling together a vaguely functional team from whatever spare parts are lying around.

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      @gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

      Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.

      Called it 😉

      Congrats to you and @MiketheSnow - a win is a win.

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        @gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

        Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.

        Called it 😉

        Congrats to you and @MiketheSnow - a win is a win.

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        @nta said in Wales v Australia:

        @gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

        Or maybe how many clumsy bastards get themselves carded on the day.

        Called it 😉

        Congrats to you and @MiketheSnow - a win is a win.

        Cheers

        Hollow

        We’ve had back to back matches against 14, sometimes 13, and we still can’t create an overlap

        Pathetic

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          knocking the ball down like that before the Welsh try should not be rewarded - no matter if it travelled marginally backwards. I think the benefit of the doubt should be against the "down-knocker" in these situations, as I feel it goes against the spirit of the game. So a penalty unless the ball CLEARLY travels backwards, I think everyone plays and refs like this already anyways. Wobs weren't very lucky with some decisions tonight, though

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            knocking the ball down like that before the Welsh try should not be rewarded - no matter if it travelled marginally backwards. I think the benefit of the doubt should be against the "down-knocker" in these situations, as I feel it goes against the spirit of the game. So a penalty unless the ball CLEARLY travels backwards, I think everyone plays and refs like this already anyways. Wobs weren't very lucky with some decisions tonight, though

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            @tordah said in Wales v Australia:

            Wobs weren't very lucky with some decisions tonight, though

            I'm also seeing commentary that our discipline is still shit over on GAGR as well.

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              Rennie used the word "horrendous" to describe some of the officiating in the presser I'm told 😮

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                Rennie used the word "horrendous" to describe some of the officiating in the presser I'm told 😮

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                @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                Rennie used the word "horrendous" to describe some of the officiating in the presser I'm told 😮

                A frustrated man but it wasn't a good look. I expect that, instead of receiving his predicted apology, he'll be delivered, at minimum, a fine.

                Lack of discipline ultimately cruelled the team. Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

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                  @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                  Rennie used the word "horrendous" to describe some of the officiating in the presser I'm told 😮

                  A frustrated man but it wasn't a good look. I expect that, instead of receiving his predicted apology, he'll be delivered, at minimum, a fine.

                  Lack of discipline ultimately cruelled the team. Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

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                  @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                  Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                  Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                  https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

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                    Instinct for most refs there is knock on minimum.
                    Yellow card maximum.
                    More likely a penalty.

                    We should have played to the whistle but wow.
                    Just, wow.

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                      Instinct for most refs there is knock on minimum.
                      Yellow card maximum.
                      More likely a penalty.

                      We should have played to the whistle but wow.
                      Just, wow.

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                      @nta the Welsh guy couldn't even believe it. That says it all. He's probably still shaking his head in disbelief

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                        @nta the Welsh guy couldn't even believe it. That says it all. He's probably still shaking his head in disbelief

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                        @rebound said in Wales v Australia:

                        @nta the Welsh guy couldn't even believe it. That says it all. He's probably still shaking his head in disbelief

                        😉 Tompkins shaking his head and having a chuckle right at the end of that clip. Probably getting called a jammy bastard by his team mates.

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                          @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                          Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                          Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                          https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

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                          @nta about as bad as it gets , Scottish clown should never officate at this level ever again.

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                            Getting a red card for that head clash just feel plain wrong, no matter how idiotic the laws are at the moment. Additionally, that happening in the 15th minute vs that happening in the 75th minute has extremely different outcomes, which is weird. Felt bad for Australia, only watched the last 20 minutes (plus saw a vid of the RC) and I dislike the way Liam Williams looks, so I'm sad.

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                            @tordah said in Wales v Australia:

                            Getting a red card for that head clash just feel plain wrong, no matter how idiotic the laws are at the moment.

                            I don't have a problem with that card at all. The issue as I see it is how many views it takes for the TMO and the clown with the whistle as he attempts to justify it to the two nodding imbeciles masquerading as his assistants.

                            If you need to verbally go through a fucking checklist to arrive at a RC for that tackle, you shouldn't be refereeing at this level.

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                              @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                              Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                              Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                              https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

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                              @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                              @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                              Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                              Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                              https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

                              The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

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                                @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                                @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                                Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                                Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                                https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

                                The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

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                                #110

                                @antipodean said in Wales v Australia:

                                @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                                @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                                Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                                Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                                https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

                                The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

                                To me it didn't clearly go forward on that replay after several goes looking at it, so it is just one of those that is unusual situations.

                                A lot of refs would have blown the whistle from that position when live.

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                                  @antipodean said in Wales v Australia:

                                  @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                                  @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                                  Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                                  Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                                  https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

                                  The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

                                  To me it didn't clearly go forward on that replay after several goes looking at it, so it is just one of those that is unusual situations.

                                  A lot of refs would have blown the whistle from that position when live.

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                                  @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                                  @antipodean said in Wales v Australia:

                                  @nta said in Wales v Australia:

                                  @kiap said in Wales v Australia:

                                  Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

                                  Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

                                  https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

                                  The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

                                  To me it didn't clearly go forward on that replay after several goes looking at it, so it is just one of those that is unusual situations.

                                  A lot of refs would have blown the whistle from that position when live.

                                  Certainly. I agree they would and Wales would've been denied a legitimate try because a Brumbies player can't draw and pass adequately.

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                                    Haven't seen the game only the video of that Welsh try.

                                    Are we arguing that it went forward? If we're not there's no argument. It's a fair try. Nothing the Welsh bloke did was wrong. He tried to play it backwards, and it went backwards.

                                    It's the power of language that I keep banging on about on here.

                                    Use of "deliberate knock down" has confused the issue and people think it's illegal to knock the ball down, extended to even knocking the ball backwards.

                                    It's a deliberate knock on or forward.

                                    Turinui and Plank describe it well here (although I disagree with "absurd", it's a game if inches and very fine margins though).

                                    https://twitter.com/StanSportAU/status/1462171542821822464?t=0wRTtgvPxl7ar-JZwb8nFw&s=19

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                                      Machpants
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                                      Play the whistle, Muppets

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                                        So head clashes where the tackler is upright are red cards from now on? Seems like something that gets let go a lot.

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                                          Thomas very lucky not to be red carded.

                                          A deliberate knock down is fine if it doesn't go forward?

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