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Force v Blues

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  • DiceD Offline
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    Dice
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    #6

    <p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p>

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    • antipodeanA Offline
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      antipodean
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      <p>This could be a very ugly fixture.</p>

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        African Monkey
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        #8

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="580794" data-time="1463650957">
        <div>
        <p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p>Lol tell me about it.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>At least Tevita Li keeps his spot for the 11th straight week. He's been outstanding all season.</p>

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        • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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          ACT Crusader
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          #9

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="580794" data-time="1463650957"><p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.<br><br>
          We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Bring back Benji I say..... [emoji3]

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            Mister G
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            Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.

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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497">
              <div>
              <p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>All of a sudden i'm feeling more confident in Tana and the team.</p>

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              • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                <p>he wont be finished, I would be surprised if he has any KPIs set on this season, for him it will be all about building for 2017, whether that will be any better remains to be seen...but Tana will be there next year, and possibly the year after.</p>

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                  Crucial
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                  #13

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497"><p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p></blockquote>
                  <br>
                  Can you teach me you to type out of my arse? It's an impressive skill you have there.

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                    African Monkey
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                    #14

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497">
                    <div>
                    <p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p>
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                    </blockquote>
                    <p>Lol nice trolling.</p>

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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="African Monkey" data-cid="580964" data-time="1463724563">
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                      <p>Lol nice trolling.</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>The coach is finished after game 2.  Yeah, good work there Mister G.</p>

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                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="580855" data-time="1463697811">
                        <div>
                        <p>he wont be finished, I would be surprised if he has any KPIs set on this season, for him it will be all about building for 2017, whether that will be any better remains to be seen...but Tana will be there next year, and possibly the year after.</p>
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                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Although it was a rancid troll, I do find it interesting to consider what Blues fans would consider a successful season. At this point, what's the verdict? I get the feeling that everyone has decided that happiness comes from low expectations (see <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice?language=en'>Barry Schwartz</a>), but last week's humping needs to be followed up with some better performances. They have been some strange, ongoing, selections too.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>They've already got more points (25 versus 20) and 2 more wins than all last year, but they'll probably be last in NZ by some distance, so what is a reasonable result?</p>

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                          Gunner
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                          Don't think they'll be too concerned that they'll be last in the NZ conference. If they can get to mid table on the overall ladder you'd think they'd have to be happy with that.

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                            SammyC
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                            Ignoring the fact it's a huge troll, in retrospect it wasn't the right decision by Umaga to rest all those players against the crusaders.<br><br>
                            Coming off a huge win against the defending champions he really needed to keep that momentum into the next game.

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                              Crucial
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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="581135" data-time="1463775880"><p>Ignoring the fact it's a huge troll, in retrospect it wasn't the right decision by Umaga to rest all those players against the crusaders.<br><br>
                              Coming off a huge win against the defending champions he really needed to keep that momentum into the next game.</p></blockquote>
                              <br>
                              Retrospect us fine but you also need to see the big picture. This was a new coaching team trying to gel together a squad that had previous issues. My guess is that the mistake had been made pre season in declaring that most players that put in the effort would get an early crack to show what they had to offer. Looking at the draw they probably expected two very tough losses to start. The opening round win was unexpected but then T could hardly have reneged on a promise. Quickest way ever to lose respect. <br>
                              Yes, a mistake, but one made with an eye to the future. <br>
                              As for the season, they are already performing better than last year and giving home fans a reason to go to the game. Their draw has been tougher than others so far, and in the balance of things being in the toughest pool with current and recent champion teams doesn't help. <br>
                              The Highlanders didn't become what they are instantly. It took years and JJ made some big mistakes along the way.

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                                kiwiinmelb
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                                <p>Yeah who knows what happens behind closed doors , Tana may have delivered a message earlier  saying below par performances wont be tolerated , reputations mean little blah blah , </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>And now he has to reinforce that trying to set some culture and standards </p>

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                                  Dice
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                                  <p>I don't think the changes for the Crusaders game were that big a deal in the end. Most of the changes came in the backs and we lost that game in the forwards. Our pack was mostly the same as the previous week against the Highlanders.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>People complained mostly about Hall and West being switched out, but I have no doubt that if those two started, they would've just come out of that game with their confidence shattered.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>No back line-up we could muster up would be able to come out of that game shining, because we got humped badly up front.</p>

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                                    Nepia
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                                    #22

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gt12" data-cid="580984" data-time="1463729572">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>Although it was a rancid troll, I do find it interesting to consider what Blues fans would consider a successful season. At this point, what's the verdict? I get the feeling that everyone has decided that happiness comes from low expectations (see <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice?language=en'>Barry Schwartz</a>), but last week's humping needs to be followed up with some better performances. They have been some strange, ongoing, selections too.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>They've already got more points (25 versus 20) and 2 more wins than all last year, but they'll probably be last in NZ by some distance, so what is a reasonable result?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>I think this Blues team is weaker across the park than any of the Blues team's that JK had and I think they're comparatively weaker than the Highlanders were when they were the bunny NZ team. Hell not a week goes by where some one on here doesn't put the boot into Ihaia and Bryn Hall (although TBF that's likely to be me) and there was contention about Kaino being their one world class player.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>This may not be a successful season but the wins and place on the overall ladder point to a team heading in the right direction providing they can bounce back from the Lions match..</p>

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                                      #23

                                      In perspective they aren't as bad as the Kings or Sunwolves and all the NZ teams can't be brilliant at the same time. But comparing to lats yera is setting a very low base.<br><br>
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                                        African Monkey
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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="581150" data-time="1463781657">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>I don't think the changes for the Crusaders game were that big a deal in the end. Most of the changes came in the backs and we lost that game in the forwards. Our pack was mostly the same as the previous week against the Highlanders.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>People complained mostly about Hall and West being switched out, but I have no doubt that if those two started, they would've just come out of that game with their confidence shattered.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>No back line-up we could muster up would be able to come out of that game shining, because we got humped badly up front.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p>Yeah I remember at the time saying that it didn't matter what side we put out, we weren't going to win and never win in Chch. Umaga was trying to build depth early on in the season and I thought that the game against the Crusaders was the perfect game to try new combinations.</p>

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                                          <p>apparently Prattley rolled his ankle in training yesterday and Waa has been flown over as a precaution.</p>

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