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Force v Blues

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    Chris B.
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    #90

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="581569" data-time="1463888832">
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    <p>Harris possibly showed enough for the selectors to bring him back into the fold. Remember they have this thing about giving you another chance if you lost your place through injury.<br><br>
    With Coles, Taylor and Harris they have the makings of a locked in trio of options in a key position for some years to come.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Wouldn't surprise me - it's probably the way I would go, especially if Hika isn't considered - lack of game time is the main question. </p>

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    • nzzpN Online
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      nzzp
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      #91

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="581543" data-time="1463880591">
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      <p>are Tuipolotu and/or Luatua going well enough to warrant AB selection?</p>
      <p>...</p>
      <p>Luatua has to be better than Dixon, Taufua, etc. </p>
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      <p> </p>
      <p>Short answer: yes.</p>
      <p>
      Longer answer: Luatua - yes as a great bench player to cover 6 and a bit of lock.</p>
      <p>Tuipolotu carries well, is atheltic and just looking to blossom under decent coaches.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Luatua's strength this year has been physicality, smart decision making and low error rate.  For test rugby, that's all boxes ticked, thanks.  The AB selectors know he has the mental game - hopefully doesn't show up fat and slow :)</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Tuipolotu will be a mainstay of the Blues for some time if he sticks around.  </p>

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      • nzzpN Online
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        nzzp
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        #92

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="581534" data-time="1463879308">
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        <p>...they have picked up 2 wins on the road, 1 of which was thier first in a very long time, have picked up 4 other wins and sit on the dark side of mid-table.</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>Having not won on the road for two years, to go 2-1-1 is just fine by me.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>I reckon if we play the Reds again at the back end of the season, we win.  This side is starting to grow</p>

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          African Monkey
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          #93

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="581612" data-time="1463902442">
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          <p>Tuipolotu will be a mainstay of the Blues for some time if he sticks around.  </p>
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          <p>He's signed through to 2019 which is a bonus. Hopefully his injuries are behind him.</p>

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          • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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            #94

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="581532" data-time="1463878533"><p>So, to be clear, we're playing crap and winning close games, but we're going to finish at the bottom of every NZ table.<br><br>
            That, and our only hope is to sign Beaudy to get better.<br><br>
            I'm a Blues fan, but I struggle with this logic. Seems like cognitive dissonance to me - we can't be playing shit, winning close games and also only have the potential to prop up the nZ table. <br><br><br>
            Genuine question - do you see potential for improvement in the Blues? I do, and I am hopeful for the franchise going forward - some improvements in structure and consistency (who knows, they could even be linked) and we're into the playoffs. Do that, and it's all on. Tana with an offseason to work the players the way he wants will be important.</p></blockquote>
            <br>
            To me the majority of the teams are pretty rubbish.

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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="581662" data-time="1463920617"><p>To me the majority of the teams are pretty rubbish.</p></blockquote>
              <br>
              Conversely though, I think the NZ teams are the strongest theyve been across the board in regards to coaching in a long time, possibly ever.<br><br>
              Outside of the Blues the other 4 franchise coaches have either won a Super title or taken their team to a Super Rugby final.<br><br>
              Someone has to come last in the NZ Conference and the Blues are a hell of a lot better than a lot of other last placed nz teams over the years.<br><br>
              I think it's all about expectations, Tana is a young coach taking over a young team where he doesnt yet have 100% say in the makeup of his squad.<br><br>
              If the expectations were for Tana to do a 2012 Dave Rennie then that is clearly not going to happen but also that wasnt realistic - Tana looks like a good young coach with potential - there is a middle ground between Hansen and Kirwan that coaches can fit into.

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                antipodean
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                #96

                <p>For all the talk about coaching, just imagine the current Blues set up but with Aaron Smith and Sopoaga, or Weber and Cruden. It would transform the team.</p>

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                  nzzp
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                  #97

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="581700" data-time="1463932827">
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                  <p>For all the talk about coaching, just imagine the current Blues set up but with Aaron Smith and Sopoaga, or Weber and Cruden. It would transform the team.</p>
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                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Yeah - how about Wellington having Lima Sopoaga, Aaron Cruden AND Beauden Barrett looking for starting spots.  And now Otere Black somewehre in the mix.</p>
                  <p>
                  All that, and we couldn't convince someone to come to Auckland.  Fingers crossed for the future...</p>

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                    #98

                    Blues have half the equation solved with Pulu, but 10 is still the bigger issue

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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="581718" data-time="1463946654">
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                      <p>Blues have half the equation solved with Pulu, but 10 is still the bigger issue</p>
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                      <p> </p>
                      <p>THanks to Tana for that signing.  Certainly not coming for the front office.</p>

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                        Dice
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                        <p>I wonder if Tana can lure TNW from Japan for next season. I'd love to have some elite speed and footwork in our line-up.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="581927" data-time="1463994190"><p>I wonder if Tana can lure TNW from Japan for next season. I'd love to have some elite speed and footwork in our line-up.</p></blockquote>
                          <br>
                          .....and wafer thin defence as well?

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                            #102

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="581932" data-time="1463995357">
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                            <p>.....and wafer thin defence as well?</p>
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                            <p>His defense is fine on the wing, it's his defense at centre that is a problem. I'd want him as an outside back, not a midfielder.</p>

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                              #103

                              Not exactly an area where you guys are short though Dice. It just seems that way because Tana keeps playing Li.

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                                <p>So based upon a lot of the comments in this topic, the Blues need to recruit a 10. What other recruiting needs are there for the franchise? I personally feel that Tana is doing well for a debutant Coach. It will be good to get some opinions on other positions. And if so which players are coming off contract from other franchises that can plug the gaps?</p>

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                                  Dice
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                                  #105

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gt12" data-cid="581939" data-time="1463997321">
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                                  <p>Not exactly an area where you guys are short though Dice. It just seems that way because Tana keeps playing Li.</p>
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                                  <p>He'd add a different style of outside back to the current ones we have right now. Our back 3 play is pretty predictable, and I think he'd add some real spark to it.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Always a handful for defenses.</p>
                                  <p>

                                  </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>That step he puts on Jane around the 3:00 mark is one of the best steps I've seen.</p>

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                                    pukunui
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                                    <p>The Pulu signing solves both the 9 and 10 problem really. It doesn't matter who they put at 10 because Pulu will never pass it to him anyway. :fishing:</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>But on a serious note West has had plenty of chances to show something and hasn't kicked on. Banks going to Italy is a big loss. Someone like Black is probably the only half decent option in NZ who isn't a regular starter for another team.</p>
                                    <p> </p>

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                                    • TimT Away
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                                      Other positions:<br><br>
                                      Lock (esp. lineout ability) <br><br>
                                      Hooker (backup to Parsons) <br><br>
                                      Midfield <br><br>
                                      Fullback (Trainor might not be ready next year)

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                                        #108

                                        <p>So  </p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="581954" data-time="1464002442">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>Other positions:<br><br>
                                        Lock (esp. lineout ability)<br><br>
                                        Hooker (backup to Parsons)<br><br>
                                        Midfield<br><br>
                                        Fullback (Trainor might not be ready next year)</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>What about our problems at Loosehead Prop? We have not had a regular mainstay in that position since Woodcock left. </p>

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                                          leytonandamanda
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                                          I think pratley has actually been ok this season.<br><br><br>
                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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