Ireland v Wales
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@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@machpants I'm not sure teams are offside as often as we think
Not committing defensive players to rucks has two advantages, more players in the D line, and shortens the ruck by up to a metre. Suddenly that hindmost foot isn't much more than the tackled player, and the D line is not far from the attacking 9.
It's not the hindmost foot, it's the rear body part. Thus pretty much every slow or large ruck the defensive team are offside
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@machpants of people on their feet only. Thr guys on the ground mean nothing, which makes guys look a mile.off when they are not
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@nta said in Ireland v Wales:
58th minute - Irish loosehead again arse in the air elbow pointing down as the scrum hits the deck. Jaco penalises Wales for knee on the ground on the ARs call.
In about half of scrums you'd see that called against Green for hinging.
The standard of refereeing leaves a lot to be desired. I thought Jaco had retired!
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@machpants said in Ireland v Wales:
My points
- I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7
They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.
- Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
- Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.
Particularly when their
midgethalfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.- How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?
They're scouring the world for them...
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@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@machpants of people on their feet only. Thr guys on the ground mean nothing, which makes guys look a mile.off when they are not
Is that a law that could be changed?
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Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
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@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.
I didn't have a problem with it.
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@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.
If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.
Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.
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@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.
If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.
Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.
Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine
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@machpants said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.
If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.
Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.
Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine
I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.
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@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
@machpants said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
@mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:
@booboo said in Ireland v Wales:
Question please. May have been addressed.
Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?
My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.
Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?
Thanks
TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.
If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.
Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.
Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine
I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.
Ok, well if that happened then it's a knock on. But TMO didn't think it happened, I didn't either but I wasn't really scrutinizing.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v Wales:
They're scouring the world for them...
Ireland's first try: Kiwi - Irish - Irish - Aussie - Kiwi.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v Wales:
@machpants said in Ireland v Wales:
My points
- I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7
They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.
- Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
- Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.
Particularly when their
midgethalfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.- How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?
They're scouring the world for them...
I can't believe there is a world shortage of snappy, aggro little men with some Irish blood and a chip on the shoulder.
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@cgrant said in Ireland v Wales:
The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.
Don't worry, Ian Foster will be the coach.
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@cgrant said in Ireland v Wales:
The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.
They were, but against a better ref they’ll be pinged all afternoon for being off their feet and taking men out well off the ball
