Chiefs v Highlanders
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@bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@machpants When does a dive become a jump? If you dive over someone, aren't you just jumping over them head first?
Going for the try line is the key part, and grounding the ball. Gus was jumping in the field off play, not diving to ground the ball over the try line.
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In recent years they've been trying to reduce ways players can be tipped on their head and this appears to be an extension of that. It could cause tacklers to hesitate making a tackle in case they put the player running with the ball in harms way.
You also can't tackle a player in the air. Allowing players to hurdle anywhere on the field is stupid.
I'm fine just looking at this act and not comparing it to others.
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@toddy said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
In recent years they've been trying to reduce ways players can be tipped on their head and this appears to be an extension of that. It could cause tacklers to hesitate making a tackle in case they put the player running with the ball in harms way.
You also can't tackle a player in the air. Allowing players to hurdle anywhere on the field is stupid.
I'm fine just looking at this act and not comparing it to others.
I get your logic but it doesn’t match the ruling which is that the act of hurdling is dangerous. Not that you can’t jump into a tackle.
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@bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
I've seen players dive over a goal-line ruck in attempting to score. If they do that they should be fair game despite being in the air.
And they are, look at all the cool on the sideline dive scores, they're often getting hit mid air. Can't obstruct the ball (unless it's a maul). Can't take a player in the air (unless he's diving for the line). You can't dive over a tackler, but you can over over a pile of bodies not in play
Ps not saying it makes sense
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My understanding of this ridiculous law interpretation is that you can jump out of a tackle (i.e. lift your legs to get out of a tackle) but can't jump into a tackle.
I'm not sure why this is the second and not the first one. he jumps to avoid the tackle, not the other way around. We could see plenty of situations where a player jumps off one leg to avoid a tackle and it could get called back. That would be mental.
The one I remember is Rocky Elsom against Fiji (I think) where he literally jumped over one guy and into another and it was called back but I'm 50% sure it was because he jumped into the second tackler, not jumped the first.
Edit (found it). Fucked if I know.
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@bovidae Ditto all those body contorsions when players bodies are miles over the sideline but still in the air when the miraculously force the ball marginally inside the corner flag. By the letter of the law it would appear that the defender trying to knock the attacker into touch whilst he is diving for the try should be yellow carded and a penalty try awarded. I have no problem with the defender making the move by the way. It is only human nature to try to stop the try being scored despite the player diving horizontally in the air.
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@toddy said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@bones then you're tackling someone while they're running, not while they're jumping.
PGS looks like someone running with a long stride to me
