Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes
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@dan54 said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@hooroo said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
I don’t think for a second that MP can beat the Blues on Tuesday but they have done a great job at strumming up support last night.
I hope they get a huge vocal crowd. That will encourage them a bit more.
Blues camp won’t be stoked at having a quick turnaround against them
Haven't MP said they not letting crowd into their games until after next week, worried about covid and Island community? If so I hope they revisit decision, as they could well have a great crowd.
They seem to have changed their mind as their social media is promoting ticket sales to the game.
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@kiwimurph said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@dan54 said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@hooroo said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
I don’t think for a second that MP can beat the Blues on Tuesday but they have done a great job at strumming up support last night.
I hope they get a huge vocal crowd. That will encourage them a bit more.
Blues camp won’t be stoked at having a quick turnaround against them
Haven't MP said they not letting crowd into their games until after next week, worried about covid and Island community? If so I hope they revisit decision, as they could well have a great crowd.
They seem to have changed their mind as their social media is promoting ticket sales to the game.
bet the CFO got on the phone and ensured their principled stance got contextualised on going out of business due to lack of revenue.
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@crucial said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@shark said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@crucial said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
In a way the game showcased many of the problems that we face at a national level. When the Canes weren't allowed to play the way they wanted to they were clueless.
The good sign was that players like JB realised what to do, which was impact at speed, running at gaps up the middle. Pity his teammates didn't follow suit.Are his team mates also supposed to miss touch from penalty kicks repeatedly?
It was two times in a spell toward the end of the first half when the wind got up. You could see the ball blown back in. The first I could understand (didn't know the ground, caught out by the wind) but to do the same thing not long after was a bit dumb.
Don't make out that he was doing it all game though.I know you'd rather have Jordan at fullback but running down another player to make a case for your pick is silly. Let's wait and see how strongly Jordan states his case.
IMO, from what little we have seen so far Jordan's talents are wasted when he is in the more structured spot. The guy is more an opportunist (and a brilliant one at that) than a creator for others.
Happy for him to be pushing Jordie though.Repeatedly = more than once. I'm not trying to mis-represent anything: it happened. The worst of it is that he did it twice in quick succession. Here's another saying: the definition of madness is doing something over and over and expecting a different result. Maybe it's actually arrogance. Or just stupidity. He doesn't strike me as being very bright based on his regular on field faux pas, dumb haircuts and McDonalds dining habits. Like I said, just when I warm to him again for the likes of his running lines, goal kicking and high ball takes, he goes and does something just out and out fucking thick, and I don't think I want that in the All Blacks.
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@shark said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
He doesn't strike me as being very bright based
McDonalds dining habits. I missed this. Is he a regular at McDonalds
edit Ok Remember now
You can dislike him but hes the only starting AB back we have
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@tim said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
None of the Canes' 2021 ABs led that team from the front. Poor effort, but hopefully that was due to covid.
Only one (Jordie) was a regular starter. With Perenara like he had been out of action for a long time
I just hope the Canes can pick it up from here on. The need a lot more muscle in the team. Ardie back will make a big difference as he carried the team at times. They need a few more like him though.
I think the bLues win and Ardies form covers a lot of issues they have
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TJ is a big part of the problem, too much headless chook stuff, putting pressure on all those around him.
I think the canes need to.start looking beyond him, he'd be better for them coming off the bench, just lacking in controlling himself and the game the way the canes need.
Big ups to MP for thier heart and determination, but I think if the canes were even a little smart they would have won that comfortably.
Far be it for me to defend Pickerill as a ref, cos I've banged the Pickerill is a poor ref drum for years now, but it is a shame that every thread has almost every other post is moaning about the ref.
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Actually thought young Aiden Morgan while having a good run or two was a bit rash last night. IWhile being pleased for MP's win, and believing they played well, if the top couple of inches in team believe they have won game before start, it makes it hard to switch back on. There was some pretty ordinary use of wind in second half, almost as if they thought it was really worth points just by it being there.
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@crucial said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
In a way the game showcased many of the problems that we face at a national level. When the Canes weren't allowed to play the way they wanted to they were clueless.
The good sign was that players like JB realised what to do, which was impact at speed, running at gaps up the middle. Pity his teammates didn't follow suit.I did like that Jordie came into 1st receiver far more in the 2nd half to try and impact the game.
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@toddy said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
Interesting article on Stuff today about Perenara's loss of form over the years. The decline started 2016 and the then went off a cliff in 2019.
Nice of the article to point out over and over again that he’s gone vegan.
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@toddy said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
Interesting article on Stuff today about Perenara's loss of form over the years. The decline started 2016 and the then went off a cliff in 2019.
“But my reasoning isn't against the local farmer who's doing something for their family, it's for those major corporations who are mass-producing meat that we don’t need that then goes to waste.”
Pretty easy to find ethically and sustainable raised meat these days TJ.
I think it’s more to do with being someone who likes to have a bit of a crusade.As for the impact of his diet, maybe Kat Darry has it under control but when he returned from Japan and being left to himself he looked like death warmed up.
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@crucial said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@toddy said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
Interesting article on Stuff today about Perenara's loss of form over the years. The decline started 2016 and the then went off a cliff in 2019.
“But my reasoning isn't against the local farmer who's doing something for their family, it's for those major corporations who are mass-producing meat that we don’t need that then goes to waste.”
Pretty easy to find ethically and sustainable raised meat these days TJ.
I think it’s more to do with being someone who likes to have a bit of a crusade.As for the impact of his diet, maybe Kat Darry has it under control but when he returned from Japan and being left to himself he looked like death warmed up.
Being Vegan in Japan is really fucking hard, so I'm not surprised that he looked like shit.
We hired someone (from overseas) who really struggled here as it turns out that she was quite strict vegetarian (much stricter than we thought). if you aren't prepared to be a fish/vego here and don't love Japanese food, it really sucks.
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Late to this so just my brief thoughts:
- TJ is past it. He's so inaccurate now in everything he does. I don't know if he's overthinking it but he is so nervy / prone to error with the slightest bit of pressure at any ruck. It's sad how far he's fallen as he is one of the great Canes in his prime.
- Morgan took on the line too much for me. Promising player but not a smart way to play against MP.
- We needed to take the 3s. We obviously expected to thrash them turning down 3s we'd take against any other team.
- When Ardie plays he keeps us in games, but also can make us seem better than we are. He's that good.
- PUJ was good as usual. He needs to start in the midfield with Sullivan.
- Love has to start. He is streets ahead of Morgan & JGB.
- I want IWL back. He has size and a skill set. Partner him with Sangster.
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@higgins said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:
@nzbloke Wellington were relegated under Mr. Boyd's stewardship in 2014, the year prior to him taking over as head coach at the Hurricanes. he certainly did not endear himself much to Lions supporters that year with his 90 percent losing record nor the -167 points differential. That was helped no end by spectacular thumpings from Northland (05 - 35) and the Tana Umaga coached Counties (07 - 55)
Earl Va'a took over in 2015 and failed to beat Hawkes Bay in either of the two games played between the sides that season and were thus consigned to a another season in the Championship Division. The 2015 season proved to the only one he held the coaching reigns at the Lions. Think he traded that role in for the 1st XV Coaching job at Scots College but my memory is a bit hazy on the time of that.
Can remember Boyd getting us through to a NPC Final, think it was 2013 ? ...pretty sure in 2014 we had a massive injury count, had to dig that deep & select club players that were well below NPC standard, because of that situation were forced into selecting a very weak team, so the head coach didn't really come into play, he basically had nothing to work with, so naturally most of the other sides were going to thrash us.
Pretty sure Earl Va'a coached the Wgtn Lions for two years, that was two years too long, the bloke was utterly useless.
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