Crusaders v Hurricanes
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Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
Rayasi and PUJ must be leaving. Our two most potent backs and they can't even make the bench. Laughable.
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
Rayasi and PUJ must be leaving. Our two most potent backs and they can't even make the bench. Laughable.
Rayasi is signed through to 2023, but PU-J, Flanders and Sullivan all come off contract this year. Sullivan only in his first year at the Canes, so might sign on for another year, but I can see PU-J and Flanders look elsewhere. Not sure where Flanders would get more starts though. Ardie will likely leave after the RWC ...
Julian Savea still has another year after this one. :man_facepalming_light_skin_tone:
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Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
Rayasi and PUJ must be leaving. Our two most potent backs and they can't even make the bench. Laughable.
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@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
Rayasi and PUJ must be leaving. Our two most potent backs and they can't even make the bench. Laughable.
Rayasi is signed through to 2023, but PU-J, Flanders and Sullivan all come off contract this year. Sullivan only in his first year at the Canes, so might sign on for another year, but I can see PU-J and Flanders look elsewhere. Not sure where Flanders would get more starts though. Ardie will likely leave after the RWC ...
Julian Savea still has another year after this one. :man_facepalming_light_skin_tone:
The irony is I'm sure most Canes fans have PUJ, Sullivan & Flanders in their run on 15, or on the bench at worst.
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@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
But didn't put Flanders straight in there.
@nepia said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
But didn't put Flanders straight in there.
Lol with Holland I take what we can get. I'd have Flanders there too but at least Howden is a step up from Prinsep.
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@nepia said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
But didn't put Flanders straight in there.
Lol with Holland I take what we can get. I'd have Flanders there too but at least Howden is a step up from Prinsep.
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@foobanz Totally agree with Howden the rest of the team though….I can’t believe I’m saying this I hope we get pumped big time MIGHT wake the board up to this crap.
@mikey07 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz Totally agree with Howden the rest of the team though….I can’t believe I’m saying this I hope we get pumped big time MIGHT wake the board up to this crap.
I said the same thing last week, then about 30 minutes from kick off the lifelong fan in me kicked in and I wanted us to murder the Chiefs haha.
But in the long run - the sooner this coaching group is gone the better.
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I'm looking forward to seeing how Howden goes. I was impressed with him when I first saw him playing for the NZ Schools Barbarians. He was playing lock but 6 is his position.
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@nepia said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
But didn't put Flanders straight in there.
Lol with Holland I take what we can get. I'd have Flanders there too but at least Howden is a step up from Prinsep.
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nepia said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
Well at least we dropped Prinsep.
But didn't put Flanders straight in there.
Lol with Holland I take what we can get. I'd have Flanders there too but at least Howden is a step up from Prinsep.
Have you met me before? I care about the Magpies, and Magpies players first and foremost. I don't care about your Canes other than how the two quota Magpies players go.
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Disgraceful selections. F&%k Holland.
I’m at a point where I hope we get absolutely destroyed just so they have no choice but to sack Holland.
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That must be a deeply unhappy squad having to put up with this level of selection muppetry.
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The Canes Facebook posts are pretty interesting now.
Normally it's a bunch of "Go hard Canes!!!" type posts but those are in the minority now. Mostly fans rightly ranting about the selections.
Wonder if they read it.
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
The Canes Facebook posts are pretty interesting now.
Normally it's a bunch of "Go hard Canes!!!" type posts but those are in the minority now. Mostly fans rightly ranting about the selections.
Wonder if they read it.
I very seldom venture over to Facebook but did out of interest after your post. Good God it is almost as if TSF members have hit the Canes Facebook page en masse offering excellent suggestions to the coaching staff. Frankly I am surprised they have not deleted all the helpful suggestions but even the Canes fish heads must know that the populace is not dumb and they cannot hide from the general angst and fury that is out there, nor try to pretend that there isn't any. To try and deny it would further enhance their ineptness rankings amongst the Hurricanes followers, be they former or those still hanging in there out of loyalty.
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@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
The Canes Facebook posts are pretty interesting now.
Normally it's a bunch of "Go hard Canes!!!" type posts but those are in the minority now. Mostly fans rightly ranting about the selections.
Wonder if they read it.
I very seldom venture over to Facebook but did out of interest after your post. Good God it is almost as if TSF members have hit the Canes Facebook page en masse offering excellent suggestions to the coaching staff. Frankly I am surprised they have not deleted all the helpful suggestions but even the Canes fish heads must know that the populace is not dumb and they cannot hide from the general angst and fury that is out there, nor try to pretend that there isn't any. To try and deny it would further enhance their ineptness rankings amongst the Hurricanes followers, be they former or those still hanging in there out of loyalty.
@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
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@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
They could give the fans a bit more information as to the reasoning though. Not that the coach should pander to the supporters but at least give some reasons so that the judgement is on those and not on something made up or just name calling.
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@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
They could give the fans a bit more information as to the reasoning though. Not that the coach should pander to the supporters but at least give some reasons so that the judgement is on those and not on something made up or just name calling.
@crucial said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
They could give the fans a bit more information as to the reasoning though. Not that the coach should pander to the supporters but at least give some reasons so that the judgement is on those and not on something made up or just name calling.
Why not, many of us have seen thousands more games than a lot of those highly paid professionals and we also do not need to refer to a computer to evaluate a players performance after or during a match, Nor are we incapable of twigging whether game plans are working or not and we know what changes or variations are needed to overcome opposition game plans. And all that whilst sitting there watching the proceedings with our own eye and without the help of a coaches box full of supposedly helpful and well paid advisors, be they human or robotic computers.
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@nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@mikey07 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris Wow I don’t think there’s enough ABs in that team as much as I bleed yellow and black I have no faith in the Hollandgoround and his selections Saders by at least 12.
It will be interesting who gets selected for the Canes, put the best team on the park and its a real fight.
But Holland leaves half your better players in the stand at times.Hopefully even that moron Holland will select our best 15 available for this one - crucial we start winning some matches in a row too, will be embarrassing if we miss out on the top 8 in the play-offs.
I really don't think he has any clue what our best 15 is.
@darren said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@mikey07 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris Wow I don’t think there’s enough ABs in that team as much as I bleed yellow and black I have no faith in the Hollandgoround and his selections Saders by at least 12.
It will be interesting who gets selected for the Canes, put the best team on the park and its a real fight.
But Holland leaves half your better players in the stand at times.Hopefully even that moron Holland will select our best 15 available for this one - crucial we start winning some matches in a row too, will be embarrassing if we miss out on the top 8 in the play-offs.
I really don't think he has any clue what our best 15 is.
Yeah, he's really clueless, if the players know Holland is going to coach the Canes next season reckon a fair few of them will leave at the end of this years comp... a coach has to earn the respect of the players, can't see any of the players having much respect for him.
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@higgins I'm happy to see it. The NZ rugby media is a circlejerk who don't want to hold coaches / players to account. At least the fans can now do it in public.
How often do we get the coaches on the Breakdown and other shows and it's just a bunch of wanky questions or jokes?
Have heard Canes are deleting some of the posts on Insta. Probably get to Facebook next. Sad state of affairs.
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@darren said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@mikey07 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris Wow I don’t think there’s enough ABs in that team as much as I bleed yellow and black I have no faith in the Hollandgoround and his selections Saders by at least 12.
It will be interesting who gets selected for the Canes, put the best team on the park and its a real fight.
But Holland leaves half your better players in the stand at times.Hopefully even that moron Holland will select our best 15 available for this one - crucial we start winning some matches in a row too, will be embarrassing if we miss out on the top 8 in the play-offs.
I really don't think he has any clue what our best 15 is.
Yeah, he's really clueless, if the players know Holland is going to coach the Canes next season reckon a fair few of them will leave at the end of this years comp... a coach has to earn the respect of the players, can't see any of the players having much respect for him.
@nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@darren said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@mikey07 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:
@chris Wow I don’t think there’s enough ABs in that team as much as I bleed yellow and black I have no faith in the Hollandgoround and his selections Saders by at least 12.
It will be interesting who gets selected for the Canes, put the best team on the park and its a real fight.
But Holland leaves half your better players in the stand at times.Hopefully even that moron Holland will select our best 15 available for this one - crucial we start winning some matches in a row too, will be embarrassing if we miss out on the top 8 in the play-offs.
I really don't think he has any clue what our best 15 is.
Yeah, he's really clueless, if the players know Holland is going to coach the Canes next season reckon a fair few of them will leave at the end of this years comp... a coach has to earn the respect of the players, can't see any of the players having much respect for him.
Well I can, J. Garden-Bachop, R. Prinsep, A. Fidow, B. Proctor, J. Blackwell, B. Gibson, D. Bird, T. Lomax would be on the Board of Directors of the Jason Holland Appreciation Society. I am unsure about which side of the fence P. Patafilo sits as he never actually plays.
