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Crusaders v Hurricanes

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  • canefanC canefan

    Crusaders are already good enough. They don't need help from the ref

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    @canefan said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

    Crusaders are already good enough. They don't need help from the ref

    They did last night, Canes were the better team on the park.

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    • gt12G gt12

      @dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      @gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      @dan54 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      @junior said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      @gt12 looked like that call came from the coaches

      The retards who appointed another retard as their captain?

      Well I was yelling to do exactly what they did, what was point of going for a draw, play extra time and still maybe not win, and they got another game on Tuesday night??
      Sorry fellas , but to be calling people retards kind of shows something about you, especially when it was right call. If Jordie had taken kick attempt and missed you would be moaning for not goin to corner.

      The weakness in this analysis is that it was exactly one chance to score (time is up) versus 90% draw then a 50/50 with time to score or lose.

      How many lineout drive tries have the Canes scored this year? I honestly don’t know but I’ll bet it is zero (or basically that).

      Edit: @fooba seems to suggest it is zero
      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4719/hurricanes-2022/704

      And the weakness of that argument is to say the Canes were going to go for a lineout drive. Canes have scored off lineouts, maybe not off a drive maybe.

      Fair point, although either way they'd need to secure their line-out which you seem to be assuming. So far this year, they've had (from ESPN):

      Crusaders: 6/10
      Chiefs: 8/10
      MP: 10/12
      Landers: 8/10
      Blues: 8/8
      Saders: 9/11

      Not exactly eye popping success.

      Edit: BTW, I think they've scoreed three times off line-outs via two Jordie breaks (Saders, MP) and oe great move for Savea (Chiefs). Given that it hasn't been a huge weapon for them, and given that they were against the Saders, I still find it really confusing, especially given that any conceded penalty within the Saders half could be kickable by Jordie.

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      @gt12 pretty sure they showed the stat and it was something like 4 from 16?

      I wouldn't want to go to golden point against the crusaders. You would have to score a try or DG anyway.

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      • get stuffedG get stuffed

        Real brain explosion stuff by Canes kicking for the corner, when we could've slotted a very handy 3pointer to go into golden point time.

        Howden went really well at 6, with prinsep not starting the loose forward trio were far better... was impressed with our cleaning at the breakdown throughout the match, reckon it was a big factor that kept us in the game.

        That was one of the very few times I've seen J.Savea have a good work rate through a whole game, if he could play like that every match he'd be an incumbent on the wing for the Canes, but unfortunately he tends to be too lazy on most occasions.

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        @nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

        That was one of the very few times I've seen J.Savea have a good work rate through a whole game, if he could play like that every match he'd be an incumbent on the wing for the Canes, but unfortunately he tends to be too lazy on most occasions.

        Shakespeare summed up this performance well: “But soft! What sight through yonder tackle breaks? It is the beast, and Julian is the one!”

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          Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

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            One thing I'll say for Ardie, he's got that "The word has wronged me" expression down to a tee when he fucks up.

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              @machpants said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

              Wonder who claims the tackle stat

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              @nevorian or missed tackle stat also.

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                Going for the corner was absolutely the right call.

                Whether it's normal time or golden point, you want to be in the best position to win the game. That was the opportunity.

                How they try and score is a another story, quick ball and up the midfield would be a better idea due to our known weakness trying to score tight forward tries.

                Put Jordie in the pocket for a droppie or keep phasing.

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                  Without passenger Prinsep I thought we were much improved physically. Of the dreaded trio (Blackwell, JGB & Prinsep) I think he's the weakest so it's noticeable when someone else plays in his place.

                  I thought Scrafton had a good game too, lots of physical carries. But Holland seems to have a hard on for subbing off whichever lock partners Blackwell.

                  I hope IWL is in soon.

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                  • C cgrant

                    Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

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                    @cgrant said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                    Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

                    Have always thought O'Reilly was a good hooker, has good pace too.

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                      Without passenger Prinsep I thought we were much improved physically. Of the dreaded trio (Blackwell, JGB & Prinsep) I think he's the weakest so it's noticeable when someone else plays in his place.

                      I thought Scrafton had a good game too, lots of physical carries. But Holland seems to have a hard on for subbing off whichever lock partners Blackwell.

                      I hope IWL is in soon.

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                      @foobanz said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                      I thought Scrafton had a good game too, lots of physical carries. But Holland seems to have a hard on for subbing off whichever lock partners Blackwell.

                      I hope IWL is in soon.

                      Scrafton is our best lock, Blackwell should be the one subbed off during a match... yeah, hope IWL does return very soon, for me our best locking combo would be Scrafton/IWL.

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                      • C cgrant

                        Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

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                        @cgrant said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                        Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

                        Just in case you have forgotten this is one of the reasons why

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/122589125/wellington-hooker-james-oreilly-gets-fiveweek-ban-for-abusing-referee-when-water-boy

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                          get stuffed
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                          He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

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                          • get stuffedG get stuffed

                            He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

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                            @nzbloke Here's another one:

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-wellington-star-james-oreilly-stood-down-by-new-zealand-rugby-for-use-of-illicit-substance/LSBBAIP2JVB3S3C5BYIC3GBJM4/

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                            • get stuffedG get stuffed

                              @cgrant said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                              Reilly was really good. He hasn't a lot of fans among the Ferners but we have to admit he had a flawless afternoon.

                              Have always thought O'Reilly was a good hooker, has good pace too.

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                              @nzbloke His line-out throwing can be very dodgy.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @nzbloke Here's another one:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-wellington-star-james-oreilly-stood-down-by-new-zealand-rugby-for-use-of-illicit-substance/LSBBAIP2JVB3S3C5BYIC3GBJM4/

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                                get stuffed
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                                @stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                @nzbloke Here's another one:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-wellington-star-james-oreilly-stood-down-by-new-zealand-rugby-for-use-of-illicit-substance/LSBBAIP2JVB3S3C5BYIC3GBJM4/

                                That's going back to 2019... has he done anything since August 2020 ?

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @nzbloke His line-out throwing can be very dodgy.

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                                  @stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                  @nzbloke His line-out throwing can be very dodgy.

                                  The same goes for any hooker 🙂

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                                  • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                    @nzbloke His line-out throwing can be very dodgy.

                                    The same goes for any hooker 🙂

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                                    @nzbloke I see he has at least one fan on the Fern. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                      get stuffed
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                                      :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

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                                      • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                        He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

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                                        @nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                        He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

                                        Evil Bstad Brenton Tarrant has not murdered anyone since March 2019. Thankfully he won't get a chance to repeat it again but that does not make it all good.

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                                        • HigginsH Higgins

                                          @nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                          He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

                                          Evil Bstad Brenton Tarrant has not murdered anyone since March 2019. Thankfully he won't get a chance to repeat it again but that does not make it all good.

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                                          get stuffed
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                                          @higgins said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                          @nzbloke said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                          He did his 5 weeks, people should move on, it only becomes a problem if he repeats it again.

                                          Evil Bstad Brenton Tarrant has not murdered anyone since March 2019. Thankfully he won't get a chance to repeat it again but that does not make it all good.

                                          Ridiculous to compare a mass murderer to a bloke that got banned for a few weeks in a sports team... Aaron Smith was involved in that toilet incident, but doesn't mean people should keep putting the boot into him about it.

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