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Rebels v Crusaders

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Here's the text of the team, it's a bit small on the image:

    George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Braydon Ennor, Jack Goodhue, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Richie Mo’unga, Mitch Drummond, Cullen Grace, Ethan Blackadder, Pablo Matera, Sam Whitelock, Zach Gallagher, Oli Jager, Codie Taylor (c), George Bower

    Reserves: Ricky Jackson, Tamaiti Williams, Fletcher Newell, Dominic Gardiner, Corey Kellow, Bryn Hall, Fergus Burke, Chay Fihaki

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300569624/super-rugby-pacific-teams-all-black-jack-goodhue-to-make-longawaited-return

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    @Duluth I'm predicting the crusaders will reach 50 points in this game, with Dom Gardiner scoring the final try as Merts on commentary proclaims the Juggernaut that is the Crusaders is back in business!

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    • O Old Samurai Jack

      And Ennor still at center....

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      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

      And Ennor still at center....

      Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

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        Big opportunity for Zach Gallagher hope he goes well

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

          And Ennor still at center....

          Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

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          @Bones said in Rebels v Crusaders:

          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

          And Ennor still at center....

          Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

          No one can resist Ennor, I mean look at the stud. I'd turn for that!

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

            And Ennor still at center....

            Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

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            @Bones said in Rebels v Crusaders:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

            And Ennor still at center....

            Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

            I don't like Ennor as a midfielder because he consistently gets physically dominated by his opposites. Most of NZ's Super Rugby midfielders are 100kg or over & Braydon is 92kg, Havili is 95kg, as a combination they got physically annihilated by Heem & Ioane last weekend (both are 103kg+). Wouldn't it be great to exchange both of them for any of the Blues, Chiefs or Hurricanes midfielders? We would be content with your scraps even..

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            • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

              @Bones said in Rebels v Crusaders:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:

              And Ennor still at center....

              Fucking Ennor! What is the spell he casts that he has now pushed two players way better than him at centre, to other positions. Why don't coaches put him back on the wing where he's electric, or fucking try him at 12?

              I don't like Ennor as a midfielder because he consistently gets physically dominated by his opposites. Most of NZ's Super Rugby midfielders are 100kg or over & Braydon is 92kg, Havili is 95kg, as a combination they got physically annihilated by Heem & Ioane last weekend (both are 103kg+). Wouldn't it be great to exchange both of them for any of the Blues, Chiefs or Hurricanes midfielders? We would be content with your scraps even..

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              @kiwi_expat he's light boned then! I'd be surprised if he is actually only 92. Either way, I just don't like him in the midfield because he's not a very good midfielder. All his best rugby has been on the wing, apart from the odd outside break he offers nothing at centre and has been outperformed there by.... well most other centres. He should be last resort not first pick (and then fitting everyone better at centre around him).

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                What I would like to see before seasons end - Razor you’ll get this in an email in the morning,

                9-Hall
                10-Mo’unga
                11-Fainga'anuku
                12-Havili
                13-Goodhue
                14-Reece
                15-Jordan

                21-Drummond
                22-Burke
                23-Bridge/Ennor

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  What I would like to see before seasons end - Razor you’ll get this in an email in the morning,

                  9-Hall
                  10-Mo’unga
                  11-Fainga'anuku
                  12-Havili
                  13-Goodhue
                  14-Reece
                  15-Jordan

                  21-Drummond
                  22-Burke
                  23-Bridge/Ennor

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                  What I would like to see before seasons end - Razor you’ll get this in an email in the morning,

                  9-Hall
                  10-Mo’unga
                  11-Fainga'anuku
                  12-Havili
                  13-Goodhue
                  14-Reece
                  15-Jordan

                  21-Drummond
                  22-Burke
                  23-Bridge/Ennor

                  Good to see mate, I had heard Razor awaits your email with quite some anticipation! Have to say I agree , it looks pretty ok backline.

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                    Goodhue at 12.

                    Puke.

                    This is not crying out “next AB coach”

                    (Happy he’s back though but he’s a pure 13 IMO)

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      Goodhue at 12.

                      Puke.

                      This is not crying out “next AB coach”

                      (Happy he’s back though but he’s a pure 13 IMO)

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                      @Billy-Tell said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                      Goodhue at 12.

                      Puke.

                      This is not crying out “next AB coach”

                      (Happy he’s back though but he’s a pure 13 IMO)

                      Easing him back with that knee reconstruction.
                      Not up to his top end speed yet.
                      Could be they don’t want him to get exposed on the outside break yet.He has been out for over a year with this injury.
                      As soon as he gets up to speed he will be back at centre.
                      It actually maybe smart thinking and looking after the player.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Billy-Tell said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                        Goodhue at 12.

                        Puke.

                        This is not crying out “next AB coach”

                        (Happy he’s back though but he’s a pure 13 IMO)

                        Easing him back with that knee reconstruction.
                        Not up to his top end speed yet.
                        Could be they don’t want him to get exposed on the outside break yet.He has been out for over a year with this injury.
                        As soon as he gets up to speed he will be back at centre.
                        It actually maybe smart thinking and looking after the player.

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                        @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                        I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                        Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

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                          Speed can take a while to come back after ACL (if at all). The rule of thumb is 12 months.

                          Goodhue was never the quickest 13 to begin with so 12 may be more his spot.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            Speed can take a while to come back after ACL (if at all). The rule of thumb is 12 months.

                            Goodhue was never the quickest 13 to begin with so 12 may be more his spot.

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                            @KiwiMurph IMO he has the attributes, but shifting someone form 13 to 12 (or the other way) isnt as simple as it sounds, playing there more at Super will help, although seems Havili is preferred there, so he will likely get time back at 13 anyway.

                            In the training pics I had seen, his knee wasnt even strapped...

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                              I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                              Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

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                              @nzzp said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                              @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                              I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                              Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

                              Because I think the Crusaders will use Havilli at 2nd five,Goodhue at centre if his form warrants it.
                              Ennor has had enough chances to lock 13 in.
                              I can't see the Crusaders putting Haviili on the bench or Goodhue if he is playing well on the bench either.

                              Foster well mate who would know with him probably he will put Goodhue at LH prop.

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                                I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                                Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

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                                @nzzp said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                                I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                                Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

                                He played some 13 last year

                                He played 12 for the AB's after Robertson gave him 11 starts in one season at 12.

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                                  Goodhue at 12 is more a reflection of the squad. Razor is doing what's best for the team. I would rather Goodhue there on one leg than McLeod.

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                                    That Crusaders line-up surprises me. They look to be hunting an all important bonus point.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @nzzp said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                      @Chris why do you think he'll go back to 13?

                                      I agree it's his best position, bit neither razor or Foster seem to have picked him anywhere but 12 for the last few years.

                                      Happy to be corrected, but I can't remember him in 13 for some time

                                      Because I think the Crusaders will use Havilli at 2nd five,Goodhue at centre if his form warrants it.
                                      Ennor has had enough chances to lock 13 in.
                                      I can't see the Crusaders putting Haviili on the bench or Goodhue if he is playing well on the bench either.

                                      Foster well mate who would know with him probably he will put Goodhue at LH prop.

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                                      @Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                      I can't see the Crusaders putting Haviili on the bench or Goodhue if he is playing well on the bench either.

                                      Isn't that pretty much what happened when razor decided Ennor was a centre?

                                      You're a more optimistic man than I.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                        I can't see the Crusaders putting Haviili on the bench or Goodhue if he is playing well on the bench either.

                                        Isn't that pretty much what happened when razor decided Ennor was a centre?

                                        You're a more optimistic man than I.

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                                        @Bones said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                        @Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:

                                        I can't see the Crusaders putting Haviili on the bench or Goodhue if he is playing well on the bench either.

                                        Isn't that pretty much what happened when razor decided Ennor was a centre?

                                        You're a more optimistic man than I.

                                        I have faith. Havili was at FB then so Havilli and Goodhue still started
                                        Now Havilli is at 12 in the top 23 it may force Goodhue back to 13 .
                                        Well I am hoping .

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                                          Rebels have been poor this year, not expecting much of a contest. Tab offering a 30.5 points start

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