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Force v Blues

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  • TheMojomanT Offline
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    TheMojoman
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    V.good team and really happy to see Akira Ioane back.

    Blues need to get back to same form that saw them beat Chiefs & Crusaders away from home. If they do they'll put 50PTS on the Force. I think that's likely given Christie/Barrett are back running the show. Funaki/Barrett didn't gel last week.

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    • GrooterG Grooter

      @Duluth I've liked what I've seen from Segner so far this season, don't know why razor wasn't interested? the young man cleary has a big future🙂

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      @FakatavaFuture He'd be nowhere if he wasn't German according to our Crusaders mates.....

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:

        Internationals Rieko Ioane, Nepo Laulala and Hoskins Sotutu are on All Blacks rest week

        Hasn't he already had a few "rest weeks"?

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        @Bovidae said in Force v Blues:

        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:

        Internationals Rieko Ioane, Nepo Laulala and Hoskins Sotutu are on All Blacks rest week

        Hasn't he already had a few "rest weeks"?

        4D chess. Can't get suspended if you don't play.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          Force

          Tom Robertson, Feleti Kaitu'u (c), Santiago Medrano, Ryan McCauley, Izack Rodda, Fergus Lee-Warner, Kane Koteka, Ollie Callan, Issak Fines-Leleiwasa, Reesjan Pasitoa, Manasa Mataele, Bayley Kuenzle, Kyle Godwin, Toni Pulu, Jake Strachan/Jake McIntyre

          Reserves: Andrew Ready, Bo Abra, Greg Holmes, Jeremy Thrush, Tim Anstee, Alex Masibaka, Ian Prior, Richard Kahui

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          Machpants
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          @Duluth said in Force v Blues:

          Force

          Tom Robertson, Feleti Kaitu'u (c), Santiago Medrano, Ryan McCauley, Izack Rodda, Fergus Lee-Warner, Kane Koteka, Ollie Callan, Issak Fines-Leleiwasa, Reesjan Pasitoa, Manasa Mataele, Bayley Kuenzle, Kyle Godwin, Toni Pulu, Jake Strachan/Jake McIntyre

          Reserves: Andrew Ready, Bo Abra, Greg Holmes, Jeremy Thrush, Tim Anstee, Alex Masibaka, Ian Prior, Richard Kahui

          Who? Oh thrush and Kahui, I recognise those names!

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            @Duluth said in Force v Blues:

            Force

            Tom Robertson, Feleti Kaitu'u (c), Santiago Medrano, Ryan McCauley, Izack Rodda, Fergus Lee-Warner, Kane Koteka, Ollie Callan, Issak Fines-Leleiwasa, Reesjan Pasitoa, Manasa Mataele, Bayley Kuenzle, Kyle Godwin, Toni Pulu, Jake Strachan/Jake McIntyre

            Reserves: Andrew Ready, Bo Abra, Greg Holmes, Jeremy Thrush, Tim Anstee, Alex Masibaka, Ian Prior, Richard Kahui

            Who? Oh thrush and Kahui, I recognise those names!

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            Daffy Jaffy
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            #23

            @Machpants Old man Romano will feel right at home once Thrush (37), Holmes (38) and Kahui (36) get on for the force.

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              @Machpants Old man Romano will feel right at home once Thrush (37), Holmes (38) and Kahui (36) get on for the force.

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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:

              @Machpants Old man Romano will feel right at home once Thrush (37), Holmes (38) and Kahui (36) get on for the force.

              Zimmer fight!

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              • antipodeanA Offline
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                This is how competitive the Force are; Kahui is old enough to play Masters and looks a class above when he takes the field. Quite why he's on the bench instead of starting is mystifying.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  Force

                  Tom Robertson, Feleti Kaitu'u (c), Santiago Medrano, Ryan McCauley, Izack Rodda, Fergus Lee-Warner, Kane Koteka, Ollie Callan, Issak Fines-Leleiwasa, Reesjan Pasitoa, Manasa Mataele, Bayley Kuenzle, Kyle Godwin, Toni Pulu, Jake Strachan/Jake McIntyre

                  Reserves: Andrew Ready, Bo Abra, Greg Holmes, Jeremy Thrush, Tim Anstee, Alex Masibaka, Ian Prior, Richard Kahui

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                  @Duluth I expected more Force players to be out - I guess the question is how many of that Force 23 are not 100% due to Covid-19.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Duluth I expected more Force players to be out - I guess the question is how many of that Force 23 are not 100% due to Covid-19.

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                    #27

                    @KiwiMurph

                    Yeah, I guess it depends on how sick they were? Were they just positive and therefore not allowed to play or genuinely sick?

                    There's some updates in this article. Almost all of their squad is available this week

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/western-force-reveal-extent-of-covid-injury-afflictions/

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300574849/blues-hail-akira-ioane-as-gamechanger-ahead-of-super-rugby-pacific-season-debut

                      Conventional rugby wisdom has that after such a long period out of the game, you bring a player back via the bench. Ease him back into the fray with 20-odd minutes off the pine.
                      
                      Not Ioane though. MacDonald says what he’s seen on the training field instils confidence his ball-playing loosie is ready to give him an hour from the opening hooter before he “falls off a cliff”. 
                      
                      ...
                      
                      “We held him back deliberately,” said the coach. “We could have pushed him out last week, but wanted to give him extra time, get a few more miles in the legs and confidence levels up. At some point he will get tired and he’s going to feel it, but we just felt this week he looks ready to go.”
                      
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                        A change in the 23: Kneepkens replaces Mark Telea on the Blues bench.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300574849/blues-hail-akira-ioane-as-gamechanger-ahead-of-super-rugby-pacific-season-debut

                          Conventional rugby wisdom has that after such a long period out of the game, you bring a player back via the bench. Ease him back into the fray with 20-odd minutes off the pine.
                          
                          Not Ioane though. MacDonald says what he’s seen on the training field instils confidence his ball-playing loosie is ready to give him an hour from the opening hooter before he “falls off a cliff”. 
                          
                          ...
                          
                          “We held him back deliberately,” said the coach. “We could have pushed him out last week, but wanted to give him extra time, get a few more miles in the legs and confidence levels up. At some point he will get tired and he’s going to feel it, but we just felt this week he looks ready to go.”
                          
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                          @Duluth said in Force v Blues:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300574849/blues-hail-akira-ioane-as-gamechanger-ahead-of-super-rugby-pacific-season-debut

                          Conventional rugby wisdom has that after such a long period out of the game, you bring a player back via the bench. Ease him back into the fray with 20-odd minutes off the pine.
                          
                          Not Ioane though. MacDonald says what he’s seen on the training field instils confidence his ball-playing loosie is ready to give him an hour from the opening hooter before he “falls off a cliff”. 
                          
                          ...
                          
                          “We held him back deliberately,” said the coach. “We could have pushed him out last week, but wanted to give him extra time, get a few more miles in the legs and confidence levels up. At some point he will get tired and he’s going to feel it, but we just felt this week he looks ready to go.”
                          

                          Awesome. My expectations are high!

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                          • DiceD Offline
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                            Pretty much 3 opensides in the 23. I would've chucked Plumtree on the bench. Still a very good team though.

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                              Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter. Also NZ teams rarely play well in those midnight kick off games in Perth when your body clock is telling you that you should be asleep. Hopefully being in Oz for the extra week will help with that adjustment. I think the experience and class of Christie and Barrett will be the difference in the end.
                              Edit: Then again, I heard Richard Kahui on the radio saying that they only trained once this week due to players isolating. It will be interesting to see how their energy levels are after the Covid enforced week off. The 6-2 bench should help.

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter. Also NZ teams rarely play well in those midnight kick off games in Perth when your body clock is telling you that you should be asleep. Hopefully being in Oz for the extra week will help with that adjustment. I think the experience and class of Christie and Barrett will be the difference in the end.
                                Edit: Then again, I heard Richard Kahui on the radio saying that they only trained once this week due to players isolating. It will be interesting to see how their energy levels are after the Covid enforced week off. The 6-2 bench should help.

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                                #33

                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:

                                Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter.

                                Just look at last year. The Blues smashed them in the first half then let the foot off the gas. The Force won the second half 21-3

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                                  This week's throwback try.

                                  One from our very first game against the Force.

                                  https://streamable.com/xt1iqz

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                                    They really are commited to kicking this game off as late as possible eh?

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      They really are commited to kicking this game off as late as possible eh?

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                                      @KiwiMurph I've already decided to watch it tomorrow morning. It's been a long day. I hate these late k/o times.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @KiwiMurph I've already decided to watch it tomorrow morning. It's been a long day. I hate these late k/o times.

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                                        @Stargazer Really struggling not to go to bed. Have not missed Perth games ...

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @KiwiMurph I've already decided to watch it tomorrow morning. It's been a long day. I hate these late k/o times.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Force v Blues:

                                          @KiwiMurph I've already decided to watch it tomorrow morning. It's been a long day. I hate these late k/o times.

                                          I don't blame you.

                                          Something tells me this is gonna be a scrappy affair

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