Force v Blues
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@African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:
@Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.
Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.
Also needs to improve his ball carrying.
Wiki says he 1.92? I think that is taller than current test 6 Ethan Blackadder and taller than 40+ test player Messam. So not sure if he really is too short.
@Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.
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@Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:
@Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.
I was only responding to @African-Monkey's discussion about height. Yeah, he's only 20, he's got time to bulk up.
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@African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:
@Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.
Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.
Also needs to improve his ball carrying.
Wiki says he 1.92? I think that is taller than current test 6 Ethan Blackadder and taller than 40+ test player Messam. So not sure if he really is too short.
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@Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.
@African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:
@Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.
He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).
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@African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:
@Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.
He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).
@Nepia said in Force v Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:
@Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.
He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).
I actually thought that last night Nepia, I remember being surprised as I thought he was shorter by a fair bit.
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@Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.
Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.
Also needs to improve his ball carrying.
@African-Monkey He's only 20 so far from the finished article.
According to his stats a centimetre shorter than Read, which looks about right.
He doesn't look fast enough to be a 7 to me, so pack a bit of weight on him and play him as a 6/8.
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@gt12 said in Force v Blues:
That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.
To be fair to Gardner the touchies are often calling the offsides and I'm pretty sure he got the call for that one. He also made a good call with Eklund which the TMO was wanting a penalty.
@chimoaus said in Force v Blues:
@gt12 said in Force v Blues:
That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.
To be fair to Gardner the touchies are often calling the offsides and I'm pretty sure he got the call for that one. He also made a good call with Eklund which the TMO was wanting a penalty.
The crowd called a few for him too
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Probably a typo and was meant to be 66 mins
He did exactly what was expected. MacDonald said before the match that he expected a good hour out of him before he 'falls off a cliff'. Aussie coverage gave him man of the match
@Duluth said in Force v Blues:
Probably a typo and was meant to be 66 mins
He did exactly what was expected. MacDonald said before the match that he expected a good hour out of him before he 'falls off a cliff'. Aussie coverage gave him man of the match
Yes it was almost70mins
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Some tackling stats from the game. Blues made 237 tackles, the Force 111.
Blues top tacklers -
Papalii 29, Segner 24, RTS, Darry and Renata 14 (in his 23 minutes played), Tucker made 9 in his 10 mins played. -
@Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.
@broughie said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.
Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.
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@broughie said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.
Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.
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@Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.
@broughie said in Force v Blues:
@Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.
We weren’t doing that.
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@broughie said in Force v Blues:
@Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.
We weren’t doing that.
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@broughie said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.
Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:
Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter.
Just look at last year. The Blues smashed them in the first half then let the foot off the gas. The Force won the second half 21-3
@Duluth said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:
Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter.
Just look at last year. The Blues smashed them in the first half then let the foot off the gas. The Force won the second half 21-3
Blues only lost second half 10-0. But song basically remained the same!
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@Duluth said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:
Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter.
Just look at last year. The Blues smashed them in the first half then let the foot off the gas. The Force won the second half 21-3
Blues only lost second half 10-0. But song basically remained the same!
@pakman said in Force v Blues:
@Duluth said in Force v Blues:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:
Don't be surprised if this force team take longer to break down than people are expecting. They have a hard working, nuggety pack with 4 internationals in the tight five. Even when out classed, and giving up early leads, they tend to hang close to teams and still be in games into the last quarter.
Just look at last year. The Blues smashed them in the first half then let the foot off the gas. The Force won the second half 21-3
Blues only lost second half 10-0. But song basically remained the same!
11 points progress! Win.
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@African-Monkey He's only 20 so far from the finished article.
According to his stats a centimetre shorter than Read, which looks about right.
He doesn't look fast enough to be a 7 to me, so pack a bit of weight on him and play him as a 6/8.
@Chris-B said in Force v Blues:
@African-Monkey He's only 20 so far from the finished article.
According to his stats a centimetre shorter than Read, which looks about right.
He doesn't look fast enough to be a 7 to me, so pack a bit of weight on him and play him as a 6/8.
I think he'll end up an Ethan Blackadder/Luke Jacobson type loosie ie, can cover all 3 backrow positions. Agree with you even at 108KG he doesn't seem quick enough to be a 7. Also looks like he'll put on 5KG without sacrificing mobility.
