Brumbies v Blues
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@Derpus said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Damo How is it? there's no other Brumbies player there. In fact, there's no one else, just him..
Look again. There are two blues players, both of whom make contact with him prior to his attempt.
To go for ball you need to be the first player there, not arrive after the opposition.
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Lineout and scrum immediately improved with arrival of Nepo, Karl and Romero. Last named also gave Blues some good go forward.
Perofeta showed some excellent judgement, in particular with time up, declining to tackle when Ponies all over his outsides, and taking ball up well. Lovely delayed pass for BB try.
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I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
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Am only 20 mins in so far and two things:
- Goal line drop out for held up in goal is the shittest rule.
- How many paid staff are there in Super Rugby that we couldn't avoid the ref clashing with BOTH teams, one wearing blue and the other wearing orange. It's just not possible, but it is.
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@Machpants said in Brumbies v Blues:
I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
I thought that the refs body made appointments commensurate to the game?
This bloke is simply out of his depth and doesn’t have the speed of thought necessary for this level. If he’s still learning then he should get the “lesser “ games. It’s like a Wayne Barnes scenario at the moment.
You could hear his brain grinding at some breakdowns and he’d flag it away rather than call late. I didn’t see the whole game but it seemed to me that most of his calls were correct, it was the non calls that caused frustration and inconsistency. -
Am only 20 mins in so far and two things:
- Goal line drop out for held up in goal is the shittest rule.
- How many paid staff are there in Super Rugby that we couldn't avoid the ref clashing with BOTH teams, one wearing blue and the other wearing orange. It's just not possible, but it is.
@booboo said in Brumbies v Blues:
Am only 20 mins in so far and two things:
- Goal line drop out for held up in goal is the shittest rule.
Yup. That was my feedback to WR in that law trial survey.
I find it a disincentive to “try” and score (which is the origin of the term) -
@Machpants said in Brumbies v Blues:
I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
I thought that the refs body made appointments commensurate to the game?
This bloke is simply out of his depth and doesn’t have the speed of thought necessary for this level. If he’s still learning then he should get the “lesser “ games. It’s like a Wayne Barnes scenario at the moment.
You could hear his brain grinding at some breakdowns and he’d flag it away rather than call late. I didn’t see the whole game but it seemed to me that most of his calls were correct, it was the non calls that caused frustration and inconsistency.@Crucial totally, I have now watched the game, seems he didn't favour any side, or cheat, (as Tim and TWAS vehemently argued on their respective forums about opposite teams) but he is incompetent. He let shit go in between randomly choosing something to penalise every so often.
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@Machpants said in Brumbies v Blues:
I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
I thought that the refs body made appointments commensurate to the game?
This bloke is simply out of his depth and doesn’t have the speed of thought necessary for this level. If he’s still learning then he should get the “lesser “ games. It’s like a Wayne Barnes scenario at the moment.
You could hear his brain grinding at some breakdowns and he’d flag it away rather than call late. I didn’t see the whole game but it seemed to me that most of his calls were correct, it was the non calls that caused frustration and inconsistency.@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Machpants said in Brumbies v Blues:
I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
I thought that the refs body made appointments commensurate to the game?
This bloke is simply out of his depth and doesn’t have the speed of thought necessary for this level. If he’s still learning then he should get the “lesser “ games. It’s like a Wayne Barnes scenario at the moment.
You could hear his brain grinding at some breakdowns and he’d flag it away rather than call late. I didn’t see the whole game but it seemed to me that most of his calls were correct, it was the non calls that caused frustration and inconsistency.Fuck wasn't he? In the end I tend to think it favoured the Brumbles because it suited their disruption tactics.
Pretty awful by the Blues though. Looked like the old Blues without a clue as to how to score for large parts of that. However, they were by far the better team and deserved the win which they did find a way to achieve.
Flush.
The.
Dunny.
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A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “ -
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
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@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
Thanks. Pretty hard to see how we got a charge/touch yesterday unless the kick was shite.
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@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
Thanks. Pretty hard to see how we got a charge/touch yesterday unless the kick was shite.
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
Thanks. Pretty hard to see how we got a charge/touch yesterday unless the kick was shite.
I didn't notice that, which game?
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@Damo Crusaders exist. They are always odds on favourites and wont miss out on the final due to BP shenanigans this time.
@Derpus said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Damo Crusaders exist. They are always odds on favourites and wont miss out on the final due to BP shenanigans this time.
We have been underdogs all season.
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I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
@Machpants said in Brumbies v Blues:
I've not watched the match, I couldn't stay up as I have been beaten over every inch of my body by the covid stick, but so funny reading through this thread and the one in the roar. Virtually identical, just swap the accusations of cheating ref to the other team, and the other team's infringements being ignored. Then there a few scattered about saying the ref had not favoured any team, he's just incompetent - the voices of reason!
But do they have zero insight? Because that’s what sets us apart
Hope you get well soon mate.
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Watching a replay, and up to halftime.
Daaaaaaymon started out OK, but just seemed to swallow his whistle at the ruck. Some mind boggling non-calls, just remarkable.
Massive win. This had banana skin all over it; playing away, against a desparate Brumbies, with an underpowered pack (Segner and Darry) and missing Rieko. Brumbies were just massively disruptive, and well done to them for getting away from it. Super frustrating to watch though, and Nic White is awesome at niggling.
Anyway, with the ref blowing thigns the way he did, and to nto convert so many chances, to go down late and come back - that's a massive win.
Caleb Clarke was monstrous in that first half, huge workrate and breaking tackles all over the place.
So, will take that. Can see a few players getting a rest next week, to freshen up for the finals. Feels good to quality first, and looking forward to knockout rugby!
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@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
Thanks. Pretty hard to see how we got a charge/touch yesterday unless the kick was shite.
I didn't notice that, which game?
@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Damo said in Brumbies v Blues:
@Crucial said in Brumbies v Blues:
A question about the goal line dropout.
Does it work like the 22 where the non kicking team can come right up to the line?
That seems odd to me given that scrums, lineouts, free kicks etc must all be 5 metres back. The depth of the in goal varies as well so the kicking team can be quite “squashed “No it's not the same as a 22m dropout.
The non kicking team must be 5 metres back until the kick.
The kick must cross the 5m line.
Thanks. Pretty hard to see how we got a charge/touch yesterday unless the kick was shite.
I didn't notice that, which game?
Can’t remember now. Could have been Chiefs
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The bizarre thing about goal line 22 rule, is that a player caught by a couple of oppo and doubtful to force the ball for a try is actually BETTER to pull himself BACKWARDS so as to stay in the field of play.
Seems totally perverse to me.
P.S. Doesn’t apply to Big Karl.
