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Australia v England - 1st Test

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  • M Machpants

    @Duluth said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

    Wallabies coach Dave Rennie is set to hand Brumbies lock Cadeyrn Neville his debut in the first Test against England on July 2.
    
    Neville will reportedly start in Saturday's series opener at Optus Stadium, becoming the third oldest Wallaby debutant (33 years, 235 days) since World War II.
    

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/cadeyrn-neville-set-to-debut-for-wallabies-against-england-2022629

    Keeping the seat warm for the NH locks in the RWC, when I'm sure the 3 overseas players limit won't apply

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    @Machpants said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

    @Duluth said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

    Wallabies coach Dave Rennie is set to hand Brumbies lock Cadeyrn Neville his debut in the first Test against England on July 2.
    
    Neville will reportedly start in Saturday's series opener at Optus Stadium, becoming the third oldest Wallaby debutant (33 years, 235 days) since World War II.
    

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/cadeyrn-neville-set-to-debut-for-wallabies-against-england-2022629

    Keeping the seat warm for the NH locks in the RWC, when I'm sure the 3 overseas players limit won't apply

    Don't know if Skelton's discipline is really what the Wallabies need though

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      England are $2.75 to win the series with Sportsbet. Way overs. Crazy odds. If we play our best we win 2-1, but generally in July we don't play our best.

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        1. Angus Bell (16 Tests)
        2. David Porecki*
        3. Allan Alaalatoa (53 Tests)
        4. Darcy Swain (10 Tests)
        5. Cadeyrn Neville*
        6. Rob Leota (6 Tests)
        7. Michael Hooper (c) (118 Tests)
        8. Rob Valetini (18 Tests)
        9. Nic White (47 Tests)
        10. Quade Cooper (75 Tests)
        11. Marika Koroibete (42 Tests)
        12. Samu Kerevi (38 Tests)
        13. Len Ikitau (13 Tests)
        14. Andrew Kellaway (13 Tests)
        15. Tom Banks (19 Tests)

        16. Folau Fainga’a (25 Tests)
        17. Scott Sio (69 Tests)
        18. James Slipper (114 Tests)
        19. Matt Philip (20 Tests)
        20. Pete Samu (19 Tests)
        21. Jake Gordon (10 Tests)
        22. Noah Lolesio (9 Tests)
        23. Jordan Petaia (16 Tests)

        https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-team-to-face-england-perth-wallabies-team-announcement-how-to-watch-australia-tickets-2022628

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          What a journey for Neville! Congrats to the ‘old man’. Debuting at 33. @barbarian or @NTA might be able to recall, but I’m sure he made a wider training squad for the wallabies as a rookie but never made the final squad cut? Now he gets his chance. Should bring a bit of starch to the Wallaby tight 5.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            What a journey for Neville! Congrats to the ‘old man’. Debuting at 33. @barbarian or @NTA might be able to recall, but I’m sure he made a wider training squad for the wallabies as a rookie but never made the final squad cut? Now he gets his chance. Should bring a bit of starch to the Wallaby tight 5.

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            @ACT-Crusader

            Made a wider squad a decade ago. From the SMH:

            The 120kg, 202cm forward was first called into a wider Wallabies squad in 2012 under Robbie Deans after just three Super Rugby games. His potential also intrigued Ewen McKenzie, Michael Cheika and Rennie enough for them to pick Neville in squads as well.
            
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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @ACT-Crusader

              Made a wider squad a decade ago. From the SMH:

              The 120kg, 202cm forward was first called into a wider Wallabies squad in 2012 under Robbie Deans after just three Super Rugby games. His potential also intrigued Ewen McKenzie, Michael Cheika and Rennie enough for them to pick Neville in squads as well.
              
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              @Duluth thanks. I refuse to read the Channel 9 papers 😉

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                https://twitter.com/TalksRugby/status/1542269625354047488

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                  Always thought Neville had the goods - but at the time there were other guys running around like Horwill, who was the goods. Then occasionally coaches would get fascinated by others who I thought were not better, or at least not by a lot.

                  We'll see I guess. He was a bit of a penalty magnet and soft niggler before the left the Rebels, but hopefully some time in Japan and the work at the Ponies has given him a bit more steel.

                  Certainly next to Swain, he doesn't look like a penalty magnet any more...

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                    England team announced:

                    England team to face Australia: Steward; Nowell, Marchant, Farrell, Cokanasiga; Smith, Care; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Hill, Lawes (capt), Curry, B Vunipola.

                    Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, M Vunipola, Heyes, Chessum, Ludlam, Van Poortlviet, Porter, Arundell.

                    Overall I'm not too displeased with that 23 although we need to keep Curry fit and firing for the whole 80 minutes or we will lack speed to the breakdown. Underhill or Willis would have been preferable for me on the bench. Not sure about Nowell currently, he's not had much rugby and seems a little off the pace - and out and out pace was never his thing to start with. Good to see Arundell on the bench and I do hope he gets some game time and maybe we'll see if all the hype was warranted.

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                      Media release RFU:

                      https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/england-team-named-for-first-australia-test

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        England team announced:

                        England team to face Australia: Steward; Nowell, Marchant, Farrell, Cokanasiga; Smith, Care; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Hill, Lawes (capt), Curry, B Vunipola.

                        Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, M Vunipola, Heyes, Chessum, Ludlam, Van Poortlviet, Porter, Arundell.

                        Overall I'm not too displeased with that 23 although we need to keep Curry fit and firing for the whole 80 minutes or we will lack speed to the breakdown. Underhill or Willis would have been preferable for me on the bench. Not sure about Nowell currently, he's not had much rugby and seems a little off the pace - and out and out pace was never his thing to start with. Good to see Arundell on the bench and I do hope he gets some game time and maybe we'll see if all the hype was warranted.

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                        @Catogrande Billy from not in the squad to starting LOL

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                          Aus have the edge for me based on the selections

                          Aus by 5-8

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            England team announced:

                            England team to face Australia: Steward; Nowell, Marchant, Farrell, Cokanasiga; Smith, Care; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Hill, Lawes (capt), Curry, B Vunipola.

                            Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, M Vunipola, Heyes, Chessum, Ludlam, Van Poortlviet, Porter, Arundell.

                            Overall I'm not too displeased with that 23 although we need to keep Curry fit and firing for the whole 80 minutes or we will lack speed to the breakdown. Underhill or Willis would have been preferable for me on the bench. Not sure about Nowell currently, he's not had much rugby and seems a little off the pace - and out and out pace was never his thing to start with. Good to see Arundell on the bench and I do hope he gets some game time and maybe we'll see if all the hype was warranted.

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                            @Catogrande has Eddie mistakenly selected a backrow in their preferred positions?

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                            • M Machpants

                              @Catogrande Billy from not in the squad to starting LOL

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                              @Machpants said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                              @Catogrande Billy from not in the squad to starting LOL

                              Understandable IMO. He's been playing very well for Sarries and both incumbent No8s are injured. No-one else has really put there hand up either. Callum Chick seems to be liked by Eddie but has yet to convince and ut in an anonymous performance v the BaaBaas (although there is a who didn't element there).

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                                @Catogrande has Eddie mistakenly selected a backrow in their preferred positions?

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                                @antipodean said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                @Catogrande has Eddie mistakenly selected a backrow in their preferred positions?

                                He's obviously been keenly following my critiques on here.

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                                  Well, this should make some people feel warm all over.

                                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/06/30/england-team-announcement-live-eddie-jones-australia-2022-latest/

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                                    Doleman's biggest test so far. And work experience as the TMO.

                                    Referee: James Doleman (NZR)
                                    Assistant Referee 1: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
                                    Assistant Referee 2: Craig Evans (WRU)
                                    TMO: Brendon Pickerill (NZR)

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      Well, this should make some people feel warm all over.

                                      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/06/30/england-team-announcement-live-eddie-jones-australia-2022-latest/

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                      Well, this should make some people feel warm all over.

                                      He always looks unhappy unless he's shoulder charging someone.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                        Well, this should make some people feel warm all over.

                                        He always looks unhappy unless he's shoulder charging someone.

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                                        @NTA How do you genuinely feel coming into this year? You must be happy with how the Brumbies and Tahs really stepped up this year and plenty of talent showing? I'm really excited in general with how competitive things are getting.

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                                          that's an abrasive English back row

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