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Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS)

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  • Dan54D Away
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    That ladies and gents is called a shield match! Really enjoyed it, and guessing there a couple of nackered teams!

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

      @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

      Would love to see Shaun Stephenson in a black jersey , so reminds me of James Lowes ..a skill set made for international rugby ..D is a concern but so was Lowes

      Stevenson and Lowe style outside backs with decent pace, ability to beat a man, and a huge punt don't appear to be valued in NZ rugby ... they're no George Bridges.

      They had plenty of chances to show how good they are in the Chiefs but never really took them.

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      @Crucial there is an art to profiling a player with a specific skill set regardless of what team he plays for .
      Stephenson has all the tools to succeed in a higher environment, unfortunately this current coaching group don’t rate him .
      But we are talking about a group that is playing the same team back to back for the first time in 49 x games ..tells you something about them as a selection team

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        Amazed that HB managed to win this one. And pleased due to tipping

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Crucial said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

          @Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

          @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

          Would love to see Shaun Stephenson in a black jersey , so reminds me of James Lowes ..a skill set made for international rugby ..D is a concern but so was Lowes

          Stevenson and Lowe style outside backs with decent pace, ability to beat a man, and a huge punt don't appear to be valued in NZ rugby ... they're no George Bridges.

          They had plenty of chances to show how good they are in the Chiefs but never really took them.

          Lowe was great for the Chiefs.

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          @Nepia Yeah, ridiculous claim about Lowe!

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            Harbour bench not as good. Kalapu looked good though.

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              Well done HB

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              • S Steven Harris

                @Crucial there is an art to profiling a player with a specific skill set regardless of what team he plays for .
                Stephenson has all the tools to succeed in a higher environment, unfortunately this current coaching group don’t rate him .
                But we are talking about a group that is playing the same team back to back for the first time in 49 x games ..tells you something about them as a selection team

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                @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                @Crucial there is an art to profiling a player with a specific skill set regardless of what team he plays for .
                Stephenson has all the tools to succeed in a higher environment, unfortunately this current coaching group don’t rate him .
                But we are talking about a group that is playing the same team back to back for the first time in 49 x games ..tells you something about them as a selection team

                My point was that he can’t assert himself strongly enough at super despite his skills so talking about him at an even higher level again seems odd.

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                  It's hard to believe, but we basically won this game because McClutchie's boot was better than Gatland's.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    It's hard to believe, but we basically won this game because McClutchie's boot was better than Gatland's.

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                    @Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                    It's hard to believe, but we basically won this game because McClutchie's boot was better than Gatland's.

                    And Harbour nearly won it through Gatland's attacking game.

                    It's the upside down.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                      @Crucial there is an art to profiling a player with a specific skill set regardless of what team he plays for .
                      Stephenson has all the tools to succeed in a higher environment, unfortunately this current coaching group don’t rate him .
                      But we are talking about a group that is playing the same team back to back for the first time in 49 x games ..tells you something about them as a selection team

                      My point was that he can’t assert himself strongly enough at super despite his skills so talking about him at an even higher level again seems odd.

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                      @Crucial we will agree to disagree..players with lesser skill sets and an ability to beat players one on one have been part of the All Black set up in recent times .

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                        @Crucial we will agree to disagree..players with lesser skill sets and an ability to beat players one on one have been part of the All Black set up in recent times .

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                        @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                        @Crucial we will agree to disagree..players with lesser skill sets and an ability to beat players one on one have been part of the All Black set up in recent times .

                        Bridge being shite doesn’t make Stevenson good enough. Weird logic.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          WTF - I had no idea Brock James was coaching the Magpies.

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                          @Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                          WTF - I had no idea Brock James was coaching the Magpies.

                          There has been something missing in the HB backline all season, must be down to him then.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Steven-Harris said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                            @Crucial we will agree to disagree..players with lesser skill sets and an ability to beat players one on one have been part of the All Black set up in recent times .

                            Bridge being shite doesn’t make Stevenson good enough. Weird logic.

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                            @Crucial just an opinion

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                              The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                              Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

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                                The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

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                                AB's will let Hawke's Bay know tomorrow about whether Retallick stays with HB for one more game or will join the AB's.

                                He looked short of a gallop.

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                                  • HigginsH Higgins

                                    The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                    Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

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                                    @Higgins The good part of that game was that the Bay never gave up, and really applied themselves when it counted. The bad part is that unless you correct it you'll do it once too often. The Bay pack looked to be fairly dominant, but at the moment the backline appears to be clunky, and not in sync. The last 15 minutes were bloody good, but it needs to be there from the word go to give Bay supporters confidence the Shield can be retained. Southland are next in line, and as usual they are the kind of team that will sneak up and do exactly what there not meant to. I remember a few years ago when they came up, with basically a no name team, played a good Bay team and beat them. And let's not forget 9-3 over Canterbury. To be honest the Bay appear to be playing fairly restricted. Lift the lid and let them play. That's when there at there best. Oh and please get rid of James Parsons as a commentator. He's a very good analyst but as a commentator he gives me the shits.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                      Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

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                                      @Higgins said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                      The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                      Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

                                      I like Sapsford in the midfield (as back up) but he's not really a wing.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Higgins said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                        The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                        Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

                                        I like Sapsford in the midfield (as back up) but he's not really a wing.

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                                        @Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                        @Higgins said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                        The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                        Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

                                        I like Sapsford in the midfield (as back up) but he's not really a wing.

                                        I don't think Visinia is a wing either - his defence was pretty shocking.

                                        I'm sad the highlights package didn't show one of the best bits - the girl running the ball on the field at the start of the game, realizing that it is Gatland who is waiting for it, and just putting it on the ground instead of giving it to him so he had to fetch it.

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                                        • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                                          @Nepia said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                          @Higgins said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                          The winning margin has doubled from the last successful defence against Counties, that's a 100% increase. The anxiety levels were more strained this time though thanks in a decent part to a poor selection on the HB right wing and nothing could really be done about it thanks to the composition of the bench, although Neria Fomai has been decent when given a run there a couple of times.

                                          Thankfully the dreadful stream of box kicks were almost eliminated this time, possibly because of the decent wind coming in from the south west.

                                          I like Sapsford in the midfield (as back up) but he's not really a wing.

                                          I don't think Visinia is a wing either - his defence was pretty shocking.

                                          I'm sad the highlights package didn't show one of the best bits - the girl running the ball on the field at the start of the game, realizing that it is Gatland who is waiting for it, and just putting it on the ground instead of giving it to him so he had to fetch it.

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                                          @Stockcar86 said in Hawkes Bay vs. North Harbour (RS):

                                          the girl running the ball on the field at the start of the game, realizing that it is Gatland who is waiting for it, and just putting it on the ground instead of giving it to him so he had to fetch it.

                                          Haha, I'm going to have to check that out later (after I find out where you live and waterboard you for your spelling of realising.)

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