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All Blacks XV v Barbarians

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

    Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

    @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

    Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

    Aumua seems to have snuck under the radar so great the selectors spotted him. Surprised to see he's 28. Bit more physical than Reiko from what I saw.

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      Halftime interview with Codie McAlister.

      Codie.

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      @Bones He must be the silent type or problems with the coms. I'm sure there will be some learnings.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

        @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

        Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

        Aumua seems to have snuck under the radar so great the selectors spotted him. Surprised to see he's 28. Bit more physical than Reiko from what I saw.

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        @Victor-Meldrew word on a forum I frequent is he had an outstanding NPC.

        Didn't think he looked more physical than Rieko, he's a touch bigger though (and didn't seem hindered by that when stepping).

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          @Victor-Meldrew word on a forum I frequent is he had an outstanding NPC.

          Didn't think he looked more physical than Rieko, he's a touch bigger though (and didn't seem hindered by that when stepping).

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          @Bones
          You are a bit harsh on Williams who was playing tight head where he was uncomfortable even in the NPC. He is a very good loose head. This was not a gift for him to play against a seasoned LH like Marler in a position where we knew he would struggle. Aumua was powerful but slow. I was more impressed by Nankivell.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

            Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

            @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

            Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

            Stevenson did look good, didn't he, but much more a winger than a fb I suspect. Looks bigger than the reported 90kg. Suspect he and Zarn Sullivan may be competing for a place (unless a future AB coach sees the even bigger Sullivan as a 10).
            Will still make mistakes but the upside is exciting.
            I thought DMac has most of his pace back but didn't see the crazy acceleration he used to have? Will have to go back and watch again. Looks better on attack to me than BB.
            I thought Jacobson toiled on occasion but he doesn't seem an opportunistic Ardie type of loosie and unlikely to be selected again (he can tackle but I haven't seen dominating ones at the top level).
            That French winger was classy.
            Aumua is interesting, could have represented 3 countries.

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              This game showed that you cannot field at the same time two diminutive players in the 9 and 10 jerseys. They were simply brushed off by Mercer for his try after a five meter scrum. This defensive weakness was probably identified before the game by Razor. Ratima brought some welcome energy and strength when he came in.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                  Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                  Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

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                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                  Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                  Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                  Is he not better suited to 12? He's certainly built more like an inside centre .

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                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                    @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                    Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                    Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                    Is he not better suited to 12? He's certainly built more like an inside centre .

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                    @Frye For MP he played all his games at 13. For Ta$man, he played one game at 12, all other games at 13.

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                      @chimoaus @cgrant I don't really know what you were watching, I saw him race up brilliantly on defence a couple of times and at no stage looked slow, so I'm lost.

                      @cgrant I'm only going off what I watched, I'm not going to go through everyone's history before I comment. Williams was cake.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                        @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                        Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                        Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

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                        @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                        @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                        Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                        Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                        Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

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                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                          @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                          Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                          Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                          Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

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                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                          @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                          Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                          Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                          Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                          To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

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                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                            @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                            Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                            Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                            Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                            To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

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                            @Chris He looked a bit limited when he played for Chiefs before. I think both he and Nankivell are strong enough to have their moments in super rugby but may get exposed by the quicker pace at international level. Both maybe not with a wider skillset to fit all conditions either. But hey some midfielders get better with age...

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                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                              Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                              Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                              Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                              To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                              @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                              Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                              Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                              Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                              To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

                              Well this throws the cat amongst the pigeons....was this game only super level? Or above? Below?

                              Careful you don't upset any Razor supporters...

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                30 minutes.

                                Interesting contrast. ABXV backline looking handy as, forwards getting worked.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                30 minutes.

                                Interesting contrast. ABXV backline looking handy as, forwards getting worked.

                                Thanks Jase, it would have been good if we had a few others there, but sadly Hodgman and others just aren't as good as the Saders second XV.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                  30 minutes.

                                  Interesting contrast. ABXV backline looking handy as, forwards getting worked.

                                  Thanks Jase, it would have been good if we had a few others there, but sadly Hodgman and others just aren't as good as the Saders second XV.

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                                  @gt12 Harmon and Aumua would probably have made a big difference too.

                                  But yeah, ABXV backline might look even sharper with a forward pack...let's just roll them out as the AB backline this weekend. Caution to the wind!

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                                    Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                                    Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                                    Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                                    To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

                                    Well this throws the cat amongst the pigeons....was this game only super level? Or above? Below?

                                    Careful you don't upset any Razor supporters...

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                                    Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                                    Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                                    Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                                    To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

                                    Well this throws the cat amongst the pigeons....was this game only super level? Or above? Below?

                                    Careful you don't upset any Razor supporters...

                                    Not talking about this performance but what came before .
                                    As for the level of this game fuck knows as for Amua playing higher than SR level as I said not sure either way.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew Aumua looked very Riekoish. Definitely someone to get more involved.

                                      Stevenson has the Jordan mystique, but a better boot. Back 3 of him, Jordan and Telea is certainly worth a look.

                                      Aumua looked a little slow and heavy to me, like running in quick sand or post injury NMS. Happy to be wrong of course but I have not seen a lot of him prior.

                                      Yep Chim, I can't claim to be a real big fan of Aumua above NPC, not knocking him or anything, but feel maybe Super rugby is his ceiling.

                                      To be fair he was very good for MP in SR rugby, so maybe a higher ceiling than NPC.Not sure about a higher step though.

                                      Well this throws the cat amongst the pigeons....was this game only super level? Or above? Below?

                                      Careful you don't upset any Razor supporters...

                                      Not talking about this performance but what came before .
                                      As for the level of this game fuck knows as for Amua playing higher than SR level as I said not sure either way.

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                                      @Chris I reckon this was higher than SR level. He was one of the best on the park for ABXV.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                        30 minutes.

                                        Interesting contrast. ABXV backline looking handy as, forwards getting worked.

                                        Thanks Jase, it would have been good if we had a few others there, but sadly Hodgman and others just aren't as good as the Saders second XV.

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                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                        30 minutes.

                                        Interesting contrast. ABXV backline looking handy as, forwards getting worked.

                                        Thanks Jase, it would have been good if we had a few others there, but sadly Hodgman and others just aren't as good as the Saders second XV.

                                        Throwing Razor a bone?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Chris I reckon this was higher than SR level. He was one of the best on the park for ABXV.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV v Barbarians:

                                          @Chris I reckon this was higher than SR level. He was one of the best on the park for ABXV.

                                          Along with Gardiner yeah he was.
                                          I like his power game which we need so worth a look for sure.
                                          Levi at 2nd five wouldn’t be bad.

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