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France vs Springboks

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  • OomPBO OomPB

    @NTA The only defancies with Willemse is his place kicking. His distribution, defense has always been outstanding plus he is a very good stepper.

    He played 10 all his years and only change to 15 on Rassie's request. Lately he play 12 at the Stormers who have Libbok in 10 and Gelant in 15.This 3 had a massive year for the Stormers.

    Willie, also a Paul Roser played 10 until the Cheetahs moved him to 15 and wing.

    In my view the Springboks is in desperate need of flair player like Willemse and Willie.

    I think you missing the pot totally.

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    @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

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      @ACT-Crusader said in France vs Springboks:

      @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

      Willie seems to go through highs and lows doesn't he?! Not sure what the issue is, maybe sometimes he panics.

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        Willie was pretty good in his last two outings against Ireland and Wales.

        Willemse scrambling defense is excellent specially when we are 14 men.

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          I hope to see Libbok and Roos get a decent run against Italy. If Libbok goes well in 10, we can move Willemse to his best position in 12. Then we can ignite our excellent finishers on the wing.

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            https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

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              #148

              Rassie should have been a soccer coach, the whiny Kant. I usually like the Springboks but with such a DoR I'll have to switch allegiance

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                https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

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                @Billy-Tell said in France vs Springboks:

                https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

                What about the errant officials?

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                  https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/springboks/pieter-stephs-springbok-season-over-star-forward-slapped-with-3-week-ban-for-france-red-card-20221117

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                    At what point does World Rugby grow a spine and throw the book at Erasmus?
                    He clearly believes he can do as he wants.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

                      @NTA how do you get this?

                      Willemse is a fullback pretending to be a flyhalf most of the time. However, he also possess a distribution game where the entire Bok plan is still running on kick-and-bash. Maybe over time he and the wingers can make something of it, but he's a square peg in a round hole at the moment.

                      Le Roux is a total flake. The strategy of him joining as first receiver is to cover Willemse's deficiencies, but his defence is suspect and his temperament has always been crap. Much better at provincial level where he was carving up second-rate D lines.

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                      @NTA I hope you watched the Italy test. The proof is in the pudding with Willemse, Willie and Libbok. They can change that dore Bok backline into a try scoring machine.

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                        It's Italy they were playing against.

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                        • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                          It's Italy they were playing against.

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                          OomPB
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                          @The-Irishman yes, they beat the Wallabies last week.

                          It's not about the opponent or scoreline.

                          It's about the gameplan the Boks played.

                          Box kick up and under fest Dore rugby vs running rugby.

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                          • OomPBO OomPB

                            @NTA I hope you watched the Italy test. The proof is in the pudding with Willemse, Willie and Libbok. They can change that dore Bok backline into a try scoring machine.

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                            #155

                            @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

                            @NTA I hope you watched the Italy test. The proof is in the pudding with Willemse, Willie and Libbok. They can change that dore Bok backline into a try scoring machine.

                            Firstly, there is no response I can provide where you think I'm right, so this will be short.

                            • I think you'll also remember I said that Willemse could make something of his combination with the wingers, but that he wasn't much more than a fullback playing 10. AND I said Le Roux was a flake who was good at carving up second-rate defensive teams.

                            Secondly, it was Italy.

                            Third: I'll watch the game because I'm bored and the weather is crap, but I'll bet it is about as impressive as watching paint dry. My prediction: Bok forwards bash holes in an Italian defensive line that wasn't very impressive against a Wallaby "B" side, and then given the backs space to work.

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

                              @NTA I hope you watched the Italy test. The proof is in the pudding with Willemse, Willie and Libbok. They can change that dore Bok backline into a try scoring machine.

                              Firstly, there is no response I can provide where you think I'm right, so this will be short.

                              • I think you'll also remember I said that Willemse could make something of his combination with the wingers, but that he wasn't much more than a fullback playing 10. AND I said Le Roux was a flake who was good at carving up second-rate defensive teams.

                              Secondly, it was Italy.

                              Third: I'll watch the game because I'm bored and the weather is crap, but I'll bet it is about as impressive as watching paint dry. My prediction: Bok forwards bash holes in an Italian defensive line that wasn't very impressive against a Wallaby "B" side, and then given the backs space to work.

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                              @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                              the weather is crap

                              Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                the weather is crap

                                Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

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                                @Nepia said in France vs Springboks:

                                @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                the weather is crap

                                Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

                                Blowing a gale= crap

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @Nepia said in France vs Springboks:

                                  @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                  the weather is crap

                                  Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

                                  Blowing a gale= crap

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                                  @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                  @Nepia said in France vs Springboks:

                                  @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                  the weather is crap

                                  Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

                                  Blowing a gale= crap

                                  You need to live in Palmy for a few years, then you wouldn't be worried about the light spring breeze today. πŸ˜‰

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                    @Nepia said in France vs Springboks:

                                    @NTA said in France vs Springboks:

                                    the weather is crap

                                    Are you away? It's sunny and 26 degrees at the moment. πŸ™‚

                                    Blowing a gale= crap

                                    You need to live in Palmy for a few years, then you wouldn't be worried about the light spring breeze today. πŸ˜‰

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                                    @Nepia nobody needs to live there.

                                    You could say nobody actually "lives" there...

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                                      I guess this goes here?
                                      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wayne-barnes-reveals-hes-considered-25747560

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        I guess this goes here?
                                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wayne-barnes-reveals-hes-considered-25747560

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                                        @Bones said in France vs Springboks:

                                        I guess this goes here?
                                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wayne-barnes-reveals-hes-considered-25747560

                                        Barnes siding with the French over a controversial match? well I never...

                                        this looks like it could also go in the conspiracy theory thread, recently known as the Laporte thread.. its evidence he is corrupt lol!

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