Blues v Brumbies
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@Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:
Need to sub Christie.
Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.
@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Brumbies:
@Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:
Need to sub Christie.
Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.
I thought Christie was fine - good last week and this week. Does his core stuff well, particularly under pressure. Not error free, but solid - and distributes reasonably well.
Funaki looked bloody good though, but I still wouldn't start him. Would stick with Christie for now.
We did not play that ref at all well. Conceded massive penalties - I'll go and look it up, but we weren't good enough to overlcome it.
17-9 Penalty count. 5 points. Frustrating watch.
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@KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuries@Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:
@KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuriesI agree with most of that.
However I would dispute Tua had a 'great' npc - he was serviceable but still had a high error rate as he usually does - (when he wasn't injured). Obviously much better than the likes of Hohaia but cripes that dude is a club player.
He made the right call going to Brumbies. Better than being stuck on the bench/not playing.
Completely agree certain players get way more chances than others.
I find Tua gets a free ride on here though. Because he plays for Northland his shortcomings get overlooked because he flashes talent every now and then or because people know him personally or something. It's weird.
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@Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:
@KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuriesI agree with most of that.
However I would dispute Tua had a 'great' npc - he was serviceable but still had a high error rate as he usually does - (when he wasn't injured). Obviously much better than the likes of Hohaia but cripes that dude is a club player.
He made the right call going to Brumbies. Better than being stuck on the bench/not playing.
Completely agree certain players get way more chances than others.
I find Tua gets a free ride on here though. Because he plays for Northland his shortcomings get overlooked because he flashes talent every now and then or because people know him personally or something. It's weird.
@KiwiMurph i will agree thats its taken him time to deliver especially for the Taniwha .he is still a concern defensively but hoping consistant game time and coaching will address that ..hopefully
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@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Brumbies:
@Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:
Need to sub Christie.
Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.
I thought Christie was fine - good last week and this week. Does his core stuff well, particularly under pressure. Not error free, but solid - and distributes reasonably well.
Funaki looked bloody good though, but I still wouldn't start him. Would stick with Christie for now.
We did not play that ref at all well. Conceded massive penalties - I'll go and look it up, but we weren't good enough to overlcome it.
17-9 Penalty count. 5 points. Frustrating watch.
@nzzp I thought Christie got a bit rattled. And then the errors/bad decisions started piling up. I like how he plays and he’s a tough bugger, but they needed to speed the game up and I thought Christie was a bit of a handbrake.
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@Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:
@KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuriesI agree with most of that.
However I would dispute Tua had a 'great' npc - he was serviceable but still had a high error rate as he usually does - (when he wasn't injured). Obviously much better than the likes of Hohaia but cripes that dude is a club player.
He made the right call going to Brumbies. Better than being stuck on the bench/not playing.
Completely agree certain players get way more chances than others.
I find Tua gets a free ride on here though. Because he plays for Northland his shortcomings get overlooked because he flashes talent every now and then or because people know him personally or something. It's weird.
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Brumbies:
I find Tua gets a free ride on here though
really? Cant say I've seen that.
I agree he has struggled to impose himself at super level, but I also agree with @Steven-Harris that it would be an interesting transition from a more attack focused Blues side to a more forward focused Brumbies team with a different playing style too.
Not sure many players get a free ride on here (sure more often provincial bias) as there is always someone there to poke holes in someones game and people to back them up | similarly, there are always those that see the silver lining all the time, and people to back them up.
At 25 years, he has time, plus the talent to succeed at super, but whether he has the top 2 inches to get him there...
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For me the moment that stands out the most is in the 35th min when BoK was giving Dalton another discipline warning and Paps responded by asking if he could talk to the team? Mate, that horse left the stable about 30 mins ago. Goodness me.
Has to be Beauden’s worst game in SR. Excuse my hyperbole.
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@nzzp I thought Christie got a bit rattled. And then the errors/bad decisions started piling up. I like how he plays and he’s a tough bugger, but they needed to speed the game up and I thought Christie was a bit of a handbrake.
@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Brumbies:
@nzzp I thought Christie got a bit rattled. And then the errors/bad decisions started piling up. I like how he plays and he’s a tough bugger, but they needed to speed the game up and I thought Christie was a bit of a handbrake.
It seemed to me he was clearing out rucks (often first there) and trying to support players in collisions, work that bigger bodies with that mahi in their contract should have been doing.... I thought he did alright considering the lack of support.
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How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.
@Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:
How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.
I wouldn't call it selfish. He still sometimes struggles to know when to pass and how to adjust his line and speed to put others in space.
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How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.
@Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:
How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.
Offset by how many he creates with pace and physicality.
On balance, still the best center in NZ, despite his occasional lapse
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@Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:
How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.
I wouldn't call it selfish. He still sometimes struggles to know when to pass and how to adjust his line and speed to put others in space.
@Crazy-Horse giving him the benefit of doubt, the high angle you could see why he probably thought he shouldnt pass as there would have been a defender in his peripheral, although I dont think he would have been able to stop it, especially if he had just turned in slightly and then given the pass
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@Crazy-Horse giving him the benefit of doubt, the high angle you could see why he probably thought he shouldnt pass as there would have been a defender in his peripheral, although I dont think he would have been able to stop it, especially if he had just turned in slightly and then given the pass
@taniwharugby actually think anyone who watched game should of seen what happened when RTS was in almost identical position in first half he passed and Brumbies player coming back intercepted it.
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Could have passed earlier and stayed available IMO.
Reiko is a third floating winger more than a midfielder. Distributing and setting up others isn’t his strong point.
He may still be our best option at 13 though.
Would still be keen to see JB, ALB with RI on the wing
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We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
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We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
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@nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
DeGroot and Lomax are just fine.
I agree the Blues tight 5 has serious issues. -
We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
@nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:
We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
That has got to be the understatement of the year. That was an embarrassing performance, the coaches were bloody arrogant to suggest that Blues Tight 5 could do the job. If this is Tito's influence he can fuck off back to the Naki.
They were weak, got bullied and were non-existant at the breakdown. Scrum time was ridiculous, and the amount of times the Brumbies held up our ball carriers???? I mean fark me !!!!! -
We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
@nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:
We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.
Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.
Not entirely sure that is the case now with the right players in place.
The main reason it looks that was is because there are a couple of very good teams out there at targeting the inside shoulder. That gets that extra half metre and has us moving back. First we need more speed (which EDG, Lomax, ST provide) then a technique adjustment (probably feet positioning). Second line D is solid if they run straight but we are still searching for an agile dominant 6
