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Chiefs v Highlanders

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    The team is (Chiefs caps in brackets):
    1 Aidan Ross (62)
    2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (65)
    3 John Ryan (2)
    4 Brodie Retallick (117)
    5 Tupou Vaa’i (33)
    6 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (35)
    7 Sam Cane (Co-Captain, 139)
    8 Luke Jacobson (51)
    9 Brad Weber (Co-Captain, 112)
    10 Damian McKenzie (97)
    11 Etene Nanai-Seturo (30)
    12 Rameka Poihipi (16)
    13 Alex Nankivell (60)
    14 Emoni Narawa (9)
    15 Shaun Stevenson (69)

    Reserves:
    16 Bradley Slater (41)
    17 Ollie Norris (30)
    18 George Dyer (9)
    19 Samipeni Finau (19)
    20 Pita Gus Sowakula (55)
    21 Cortez Ratima (11)
    22 Josh Ioane (9)
    23 Daniel Rona (Debut)

    Players not considered because of injury: Angus Ta’avao (season), Atu Moli, Josh Lord, Quinn Tupaea, Anton Lienert-Brown.

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    @Bovidae Narawa back at 14, Chiefs' best back 3 unless Punivai can make a big enough impression.

    Is Rona any good? why does Wrampling never get a go? He should move to Highlanders or Crusaders who're light on powerful midfield options.

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      @Bovidae Narawa back at 14, Chiefs' best back 3 unless Punivai can make a big enough impression.

      Is Rona any good? why does Wrampling never get a go? He should move to Highlanders or Crusaders who're light on powerful midfield options.

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      @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

      Is Rona any good?

      He impressed in the preseason games and covers the midfield and wing, so an ideal sub for this team.

      why does Wrampling never get a go?

      He is returning from a serious knee injury but should be available for selection soon.

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        Looking at the Highlanders hookers Thompson really should have gone there instead of the Chiefs to get more gametime.

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          Not Available for the highlanders due to injury: Marty Banks (groin), Sam Gilbert (shoulder), Scott Gregory (knee), Vili Koroi (knee), Jonah Lowe (concussion), Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (ribs), Jona Nareki (foot), Jeff Thwaites (back), Will Tucker (groin).

          for me thats 4 starters out

          whats up with Gatland?

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            This is it! This is the week the Clan clicks and takes it!!

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              Not Available for the highlanders due to injury: Marty Banks (groin), Sam Gilbert (shoulder), Scott Gregory (knee), Vili Koroi (knee), Jonah Lowe (concussion), Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (ribs), Jona Nareki (foot), Jeff Thwaites (back), Will Tucker (groin).

              for me thats 4 starters out

              whats up with Gatland?

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              @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

              whats up with Gatland?

              What do you mean? Clearly, Gatland isn't going to start at 1st 5 ahead of DMac, and Ioane can play 10, 15 and even 12. He is also the better impact player as seen against the Crusaders.

              McMillan has given most fit players a run in the first 3 Rds.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                whats up with Gatland?

                What do you mean? Clearly, Gatland isn't going to start at 1st 5 ahead of DMac, and Ioane can play 10, 15 and even 12. He is also the better impact player as seen against the Crusaders.

                McMillan has given most fit players a run in the first 3 Rds.

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                @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

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                  @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                  @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

                  Daddy was Chiefs remember.
                  I do agree though that it is dumb for him to be a training jersey wearer only at the Chiefs when he could be well used at the Landers.
                  Need to bring back loan players IMO. Better that these guys play.
                  Even if Gatland would rather be backup in a good team, you guys could certainly do with a player like Reihana who gets no time at all.

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                    @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

                    Daddy was Chiefs remember.
                    I do agree though that it is dumb for him to be a training jersey wearer only at the Chiefs when he could be well used at the Landers.
                    Need to bring back loan players IMO. Better that these guys play.
                    Even if Gatland would rather be backup in a good team, you guys could certainly do with a player like Reihana who gets no time at all.

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                    @Crucial

                    Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                    DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                    ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                    Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                    I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                      @Crucial

                      Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                      DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                      ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                      Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                      I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                      @kiwi_expat crusaders have done if before, blues too...different positions maybe...some times a team just ha sa culture that attracts players i guess

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                        @Crucial

                        Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                        DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                        ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                        Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                        I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                        @kiwi_expat TTT is an injury replacement for Roe. Nobody wanted him in 2023.

                        The Chiefs have lost plenty of halfbacks and 1st 5s to other teams too. The Crusaders have three of them.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @kiwi_expat crusaders have done if before, blues too...different positions maybe...some times a team just ha sa culture that attracts players i guess

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                          @Kiwiwomble I was being facetious

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                            @Crucial

                            Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                            DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                            ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                            Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                            I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                            @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                            @Crucial

                            Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                            DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                            ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                            Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                            I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

                            Stockpiled/top level player in bold. Injured players being carried in italics.
                            The rest of the depth is their own development which is simply what you do with a squad.

                            I do agree though (and I have commented on the Saders stockpiling in the past) that there should be an avenue for players to go on loan and spread the talent when another franchise is empty.
                            That would be, for example, Gatland being loaned to the Clan

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                              @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                              @Crucial

                              Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                              DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                              ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                              Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                              I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

                              Stockpiled/top level player in bold. Injured players being carried in italics.
                              The rest of the depth is their own development which is simply what you do with a squad.

                              I do agree though (and I have commented on the Saders stockpiling in the past) that there should be an avenue for players to go on loan and spread the talent when another franchise is empty.
                              That would be, for example, Gatland being loaned to the Clan

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                              @Crucial shelby ricket, Ioane and Gatland "their development"? even Weber headed north very well developed

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                                @Crucial shelby ricket, Ioane and Gatland "their development"? even Weber headed north very well developed

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                                @Kiwiwomble Weber never played for another SR franchise.

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                                  @Kiwiwomble Weber never played for another SR franchise.

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                                  @Stargazer no but that was largely just because people like Smith and even cowen were ahead of him in dunners, had turned out for otago and there were lots of us calling for him to turn out for the Highlanders, pretty much straight into starting for the chiefs show to me he was ready

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                                    @Stargazer no but that was largely just because people like Smith and even cowen were ahead of him in dunners, had turned out for otago and there were lots of us calling for him to turn out for the Highlanders, pretty much straight into starting for the chiefs show to me he was ready

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                                    @Kiwiwomble He didn't start a single game in his first season at the Chiefs.

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                                      my bad, i forgot you can never make a throwaway comment without getting pulled up, not going to check if youre right as i dont think it really matter, he still signed with the chiefs on the back of playing in dunedin which suggests to me he was ready for that next step. Not saying he hasn't got better being up there, just that he was 22-23 when he headed to the chiefs not some teenager

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                                        @Crucial

                                        Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                                        DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                                        ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                                        Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                                        I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                                        @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                        @Crucial

                                        Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                                        DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                                        ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                                        Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                                        I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

                                        The Chiefs have the burden of having 4 feeder npc teams and always lose a bunch of players due to that. But it does leave them with better depth capabity overall than other super sides. If they only had 2 teams they could basically recruit for those two npc teams and for their development teams to plug any holes in either.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          my bad, i forgot you can never make a throwaway comment without getting pulled up, not going to check if youre right as i dont think it really matter, he still signed with the chiefs on the back of playing in dunedin which suggests to me he was ready for that next step. Not saying he hasn't got better being up there, just that he was 22-23 when he headed to the chiefs not some teenager

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                                          @Kiwiwomble my bad also. Developed wasn’t the right word for all of them.
                                          I think quite a few are just average for this level so can’t really be classified as hoarded

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