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Hurricanes vs Blues

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    Someone’s a cheat up in the TMO box….

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      Someone’s a cheat up in the TMO box….

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      @Kirwan True. But while tackling Moorby, Dalton tried to pull his head off so maybe the TMO thought if he gave the try it wouldn't end up a yellow and PT.

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        @Kirwan True. But while tackling Moorby, Dalton tried to pull his head off so maybe the TMO thought if he gave the try it wouldn't end up a yellow and PT.

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        @Toddy said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

        @Kirwan True. But while tackling Moorby, Dalton tried to pull his head off so maybe the TMO thought if he gave the try it wouldn't end up a yellow and PT.

        Yep I wondered the same at the time. Thought Dalton had given away a penalty try so that is why they left it at a try.

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          @Toddy said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @Kirwan True. But while tackling Moorby, Dalton tried to pull his head off so maybe the TMO thought if he gave the try it wouldn't end up a yellow and PT.

          Yep I wondered the same at the time. Thought Dalton had given away a penalty try so that is why they left it at a try.

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          @ARHS new law u are aloud separation in the process of scoring try seems crazy tho

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            Someone’s a cheat up in the TMO box….

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            @Kirwan while that shows clear separation, I think his arm regained 'contact' before it touched the ground, meaning it was again in 'control'

            For me, the much clearer part of it was the fact it was well short, and even the post grounding roll didnt seem to make the line.

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              @ARHS new law u are aloud separation in the process of scoring try seems crazy tho

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              @george33 said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

              @ARHS new law u are aloud separation in the process of scoring try seems crazy tho

              Agreed. So much grey area for interpretation and same with what Dalton could and could not do to prevent the score.

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                @Kirwan while that shows clear separation, I think his arm regained 'contact' before it touched the ground, meaning it was again in 'control'

                For me, the much clearer part of it was the fact it was well short, and even the post grounding roll didnt seem to make the line.

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                @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                @Kirwan while that shows clear separation, I think his arm regained 'contact' before it touched the ground, meaning it was again in 'control'

                For me, the much clearer part of it was the fact it was well short, and even the post grounding roll didnt seem to make the line.

                You can't regain control by forcing it on the ground.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                  @Kirwan while that shows clear separation, I think his arm regained 'contact' before it touched the ground, meaning it was again in 'control'

                  For me, the much clearer part of it was the fact it was well short, and even the post grounding roll didnt seem to make the line.

                  You can't regain control by forcing it on the ground.

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                  @Kirwan if he regains 'contact' prior to the ground, then it isn't lost....we've seen examples of that previously where contact is all that is required, as opposed to control.

                  Either way, it shouldn't have been awarded.

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                    https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                    Thoughts? Neck-roll?

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                      https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                      Thoughts? Neck-roll?

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                      @Stargazer around the body.

                      If you are going to show acts that need to be looked at, the Blues guy getting dropped on his head is a good place to start.

                      Apparently if two Canes players do it it’s not a yellow card.

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                        @Stargazer around the body.

                        If you are going to show acts that need to be looked at, the Blues guy getting dropped on his head is a good place to start.

                        Apparently if two Canes players do it it’s not a yellow card.

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                        @Kirwan You always see something like this as an "attack" on your Blues boys. No need to be so defensive; it wasn't one. It just appeared on my time line, last night and I was wondering whether it was worth looking at. No need to reply with a "but look at those two Canes players" ...

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                          https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                          Thoughts? Neck-roll?

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                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                          https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                          Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                          Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

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                            Thoughts? Neck-roll?

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                            @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                            Looked a seatbelt to me, not a neck roll.

                            In general, though, Rugby has a huge issue with how the hell you legally shift people on the ball. It's really hard, and the outcome seems to be those missile-style cleanouts that aren't good for anyone, and lead to injuries and cards.

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                              https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                              Thoughts? Neck-roll?

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                              @Stargazer sadly we are still seeing too many examples of players grabbing at the head/neck area this season already at rucks and mauls, and also charging into rucks needlessly, coaches need to be on top of this stuff as they will be the ones (along with me) moaning about red cards

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                                @Stargazer sadly we are still seeing too many examples of players grabbing at the head/neck area this season already at rucks and mauls, and also charging into rucks needlessly, coaches need to be on top of this stuff as they will be the ones (along with me) moaning about red cards

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                                @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                @Stargazer sadly we are still seeing too many examples of players grabbing at the head/neck area this season already at rucks and mauls, and also charging into rucks needlessly, coaches need to be on top of this stuff as they will be the ones (along with me) moaning about red cards

                                the corollary to this is good, clear direction from World Rugby that is consistently and emphatically enforced by referees and judiciaries. That moves the risk/reward. Right now, smart coaching is to take the chance at critical moments, because it's a coin flip if you do or not, and the reward for avoiding penalties is not strong enough.

                                Anyway, I'm a dreamer

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                                  It was good to see the Blues narrow up their game from the first two rounds. Forwards, RTS and Clarke running closer to the ruck and they committed more numbers to the breakdown.

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                                    Someone’s a cheat up in the TMO box….

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                                    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

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                                    Someone’s a cheat up in the TMO box….

                                    Maybe the ball went straight to ground and not forward (I have not watched the incident so cannot comment with any authority) in which case it is not a knock on.

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                                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                                      Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                                      Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

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                                      @TJ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                                      Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                                      Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

                                      You'd think we'd only won 3 out of our last 26 games instead of it being the other way round the way you make it out.

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                                        @TJ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                                        Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                                        Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

                                        You'd think we'd only won 3 out of our last 26 games instead of it being the other way round the way you make it out.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        @TJ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                                        Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                                        Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

                                        You'd think we'd only won 3 out of our last 26 games instead of it being the other way round the way you make it out.

                                        Would you? Seems an odd take on me saying the team is really talented but does stupid things sometimes. Sorry to strike you at a sensitive time.

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                                          @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                          @TJ said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                          https://twitter.com/oscar_godwin09/status/1634489641767415810

                                          Thoughts? Neck-roll?

                                          Thought a clear yellow card at the time. Rieko personifies this Blues team for me, so talented, but just does stupid things at times.

                                          You'd think we'd only won 3 out of our last 26 games instead of it being the other way round the way you make it out.

                                          Would you? Seems an odd take on me saying the team is really talented but does stupid things sometimes. Sorry to strike you at a sensitive time.

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                                          African Monkey
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                                          @TJ Well by your logic, you may as well be talking about every side as virtually everyone has talent in their side that are prone to making dumb mistakes.

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