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Reds v Blues

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    Choat is a beast, huge motor too, one of the fittest out there.

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      Plummer had a fine game.

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        Choat & Akira got through some good work on defence. Choat 16 tackles 1 miss, Ioane 15 tackles 1 miss

        Renata busy in his 52mins - 11 tackles no misses

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            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/blues-v-reds-super-rugby-pacific-live-updates/JCCNGQC7GFDAXOYQA57EMUD64I/
            Sounds like Beaudy will need a rest, bit of an injury concern in tonight's game. Did Zarn fill in at 10 after he went off?

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              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/blues-v-reds-super-rugby-pacific-live-updates/JCCNGQC7GFDAXOYQA57EMUD64I/
              Sounds like Beaudy will need a rest, bit of an injury concern in tonight's game. Did Zarn fill in at 10 after he went off?

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              @SBW1 I believe Plummer shifted to 10 - RTS came on at 12.

              Zarn had an excellent game at 15.

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                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/blues-v-reds-super-rugby-pacific-live-updates/JCCNGQC7GFDAXOYQA57EMUD64I/
                Sounds like Beaudy will need a rest, bit of an injury concern in tonight's game. Did Zarn fill in at 10 after he went off?

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                @SBW1 said in Reds v Blues:

                Did Zarn fill in at 10 after he went off?

                Plummer was at ten. Sullivan did come into first receiver a bit more often. Something he should do more to mix things up

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                  What sort of game did RTS have?

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                    What sort of game did RTS have?

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                    @SBW1 quiet.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @SBW1 quiet.

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                        @Kirwan Maybe an early return to the Warriors couldn't come soon enough. Yet to see him have a blinder for the Blues other than against the Brumbies last year.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Choat & Akira got through some good work on defence. Choat 16 tackles 1 miss, Ioane 15 tackles 1 miss

                          Renata busy in his 52mins - 11 tackles no misses

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                          @Duluth said in Reds v Blues:

                          Choat & Akira got through some good work on defence

                          Thought Akira was outstanding on the tryline. Not just big hits but picked his timing to perfection.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                            Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                            Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

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                            @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                            Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                            Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                            My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                            Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                              Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                              Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                              My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                              Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

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                              @nzzp said in Reds v Blues:

                              @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                              Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                              Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                              My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                              Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

                              Also need you offensive line ready for the quicker ball too -- running the lines, hitting the holes for the likes of Smith to put it there... but agree a bit more urgency to getting the ball off the ground and in the air really puts the pressure on to the defensive team and certainly creates more opportunities for the attacking team.

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                              • K kev

                                @Dan54 said in Reds v Blues:

                                Am I wrong, or did we see that Rangi has team playing a little different at end of season. Almost looked like they have decided it is onto ball in hand.

                                BB running ball in first half. Unheard of.

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                                @kev said in Reds v Blues:

                                @Dan54 said in Reds v Blues:

                                Am I wrong, or did we see that Rangi has team playing a little different at end of season. Almost looked like they have decided it is onto ball in hand.

                                BB running ball in first half. Unheard of.

                                What I meant, I did wonder if they were playing the kicking game under instructions, and now mixing it up?

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                                  Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                                  Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                                  My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                                  Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

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                                  @nzzp Nock has always had the tools, particularly his pass, and IMO he is second to Smith in being able to hit players in traffic....its other parts of his game that are the issue, not to mention when he has a good game, backing it up the next week.

                                  Man Heem looks sharp, certainly wouldn't look out of place wearing black.

                                  Good to see BB running more though, that's always been where his strength is, even if he has lost a yard of pace.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @nzzp Nock has always had the tools, particularly his pass, and IMO he is second to Smith in being able to hit players in traffic....its other parts of his game that are the issue, not to mention when he has a good game, backing it up the next week.

                                    Man Heem looks sharp, certainly wouldn't look out of place wearing black.

                                    Good to see BB running more though, that's always been where his strength is, even if he has lost a yard of pace.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

                                    @nzzp Nock has always had the tools, particularly his pass,

                                    I agree - but haven't seen it for a while. I really wanted him to succeed, but he has not delivered to his potential in the last couple of years. Last night was a breath of fresh air by comparison.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                                      Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                                      Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                                      My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                                      Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

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                                      @nzzp said in Reds v Blues:

                                      @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                                      Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                                      Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                                      My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                                      Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

                                      Yeah not the 9's fault generally. Don't wanna be hitting runners that are just gonna get isolated and turn it over because there's no one to clean.

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                                        @nzzp said in Reds v Blues:

                                        @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                                        Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                                        Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                                        My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                                        Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

                                        Yeah not the 9's fault generally. Don't wanna be hitting runners that are just gonna get isolated and turn it over because there's no one to clean.

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                                        @Bones said in Reds v Blues:

                                        @nzzp said in Reds v Blues:

                                        @antipodean said in Reds v Blues:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

                                        Best game Nock has played for ages. Good stuff.

                                        Good decision making, fast and accurate pass. Best Blues #9 performance this year IMO.

                                        My only complaint (and it's a modern 9 issue aside from Smith) is not firing the ball out quickly from rucks. Not pass speed, but getting the ball off the ground and in the air. So many 9s seem to want to wait for the defence to get set and ready to tackle ... it's weird.
                                        Minor quibble in teh scheme of things, and probably a coaching/gameplan related issue, but I don't love it

                                        Yeah not the 9's fault generally. Don't wanna be hitting runners that are just gonna get isolated and turn it over because there's no one to clean.

                                        There's two ways of looking at it though - if it's fast ball, teh defence isn't set and coming forwqrd to hit hard. So continuous fast ball (like Smith does) puts defences in real strife, and gets runners metres. It's not without risk though as you say - but I far prefer fast ball against a defence that retreats, than static ball.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @nzzp Nock has always had the tools, particularly his pass, and IMO he is second to Smith in being able to hit players in traffic....its other parts of his game that are the issue, not to mention when he has a good game, backing it up the next week.

                                          Man Heem looks sharp, certainly wouldn't look out of place wearing black.

                                          Good to see BB running more though, that's always been where his strength is, even if he has lost a yard of pace.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

                                          Nock has always had the tools, particularly his pass, and IMO he is second to Smith in being able to hit players in traffic....its other parts of his game that are the issue, not to mention when he has a good game, backing it up the next week.

                                          Decision making is what normally lets him down. That was his best game in a couple of years

                                          An interesting stat from the match. Nock made zero runs. Maybe that was instructions from the coaches? I suspect it was because of the terrible Reds line speed. A lot of the bad runs from halfback are when there’s a lack of options outside

                                          Some quick calling from people like Barrett and Plummer may have helped too

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