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    Update: start of week 8 (week 7 of diet). Started at 117.4 weighed in at 111.8 so far. Get a a Dexa scan on Saturday to get an idea on what the fat vs lean muscle mass that has been lost. Will also recalculate my calorie per day. Hopefully be close to 110kg by the time I go back to NZ next Saturday. Then down into the 109's when back from NZ (got the misses with my in NZ so no food blowouts on the cards).

    Training has been pretty good probably missed 1 session per 2 weeks just for being to sore or not being able to fit in a 5th session on a sunday (usually squats) before basketball sunday afternoon then Monday is always squats again so prefer not to back it up.

    Food has been going pretty well had a blow out on Friday for no real reason but back on track.

    Training has been going ok. After week 6 it was retesting which was AMRAP for 90% of my predicted 1rm. Bench was shit house so kept as is. Squat I didnt test as I am happy to keep getting my body strong. Deadlift got 6x200kg which gave me a predicted back to my old 1RM of 235kg I had been working off a 220kg for this program. The week prior I did a 200kg in a warm up to send to a mate (to take the piss he missed the 200club). It flew up think if I did an AMRAP then I would have been at 7-8reps.

    There wasn't a big deload period like I had in powerlifting so body was still a bit sore/fatigued. There is a retest of 1RM at the end of week 12. Will update after I get my Dexa scan on saturday as thats the proof in the pudding. Providing I have lost 6kg total I am hoping 70% is fat 30% is muscle (ideally more fat but unlikely).

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    • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

      Update: start of week 8 (week 7 of diet). Started at 117.4 weighed in at 111.8 so far. Get a a Dexa scan on Saturday to get an idea on what the fat vs lean muscle mass that has been lost. Will also recalculate my calorie per day. Hopefully be close to 110kg by the time I go back to NZ next Saturday. Then down into the 109's when back from NZ (got the misses with my in NZ so no food blowouts on the cards).

      Training has been pretty good probably missed 1 session per 2 weeks just for being to sore or not being able to fit in a 5th session on a sunday (usually squats) before basketball sunday afternoon then Monday is always squats again so prefer not to back it up.

      Food has been going pretty well had a blow out on Friday for no real reason but back on track.

      Training has been going ok. After week 6 it was retesting which was AMRAP for 90% of my predicted 1rm. Bench was shit house so kept as is. Squat I didnt test as I am happy to keep getting my body strong. Deadlift got 6x200kg which gave me a predicted back to my old 1RM of 235kg I had been working off a 220kg for this program. The week prior I did a 200kg in a warm up to send to a mate (to take the piss he missed the 200club). It flew up think if I did an AMRAP then I would have been at 7-8reps.

      There wasn't a big deload period like I had in powerlifting so body was still a bit sore/fatigued. There is a retest of 1RM at the end of week 12. Will update after I get my Dexa scan on saturday as thats the proof in the pudding. Providing I have lost 6kg total I am hoping 70% is fat 30% is muscle (ideally more fat but unlikely).

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      @Magpie_in_aus nice! Is that about the ratio of fat v muscle loss you'd expect? I'm cutting in a far less controlled manner and have wondered what to expect. Especially when thinking about dropping 1RMs.

      Dexa is some awesome tech 👍

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      • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

        @Magpie_in_aus nice! Is that about the ratio of fat v muscle loss you'd expect? I'm cutting in a far less controlled manner and have wondered what to expect. Especially when thinking about dropping 1RMs.

        Dexa is some awesome tech 👍

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        @Paekakboyz yeah from the book I read which is based heavily off available evidence he said monitored prep losing no more than 1% of bw per week (ideally 0.4-0.8%) should on average lose 720g of fat and 280g of lean muscle.

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          Hey @Magpie_in_aus are you based in Aus or NZ?

          If you (actually of any of the lads) need supplements etc then hit me up as one of my side projects is in the game. We also doing all the blues supplements this season which has been quite a cool experience.

          Can sort yas a discount code to use

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          • JKJ JK

            Hey @Magpie_in_aus are you based in Aus or NZ?

            If you (actually of any of the lads) need supplements etc then hit me up as one of my side projects is in the game. We also doing all the blues supplements this season which has been quite a cool experience.

            Can sort yas a discount code to use

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            @JK based is Aussie do you service over here?

            Also if I get a discount code should I start finishing every post on the fern with #spon #sponsered #sponseredathlete link in bio.

            Got the dexa back today need some tweaking on something lost pretty much 50% fat 50% muscle. My leg balance is slightly evening up. Wanting to get closer to 70% fat to 30% muscle as my overall bodyfat% drop was only 1.3% due to the relative muscle loss.

            Also think some thing were a bit off because we had a lot on so didn't eat dinner till 10ish last night then dexa at 6am. Was 1.2kg heavier at 6am today vs yesterday.

            Oh well I'm less fat that's a plus.

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              So whole bodybuilding thing fell by the way side. Gym closed obviously so got a few weights at home but have changed tack for the time being.

              Misses is doing the running program from the book unbreakable runner (meant to be a half marathon) premise is high intensity repeats.

              3 trainings a week so far been 8-10x200m one day, 3-4x800m another then 5-7km run on the weekend. Obviously varies but has been ok so far. Factors in a HIIT type crossfity workout 2-3 times per week.

              Been doing10k steps every morning and pilates 2-3 times per week.

              Weight has stayed the same which is good now that easter is over I should start to drop some kgs and get to some low figures I haven't seen in years.! Hope all are well. This forum doesn't get my attention with no sport.

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                Thought I would check in.

                Been a couple of years. About 15 months ago broke my ankle for the third time and by far the worst. Managed to not put too much weight on, can still play a bit of basketball each week but cant really run continuously long distancings (400m). Piled on some weight this year to get to my highest weight. Have still been working out so not starting back from scratch just need to monitor what goes in the mouth.

                Have a private chat group with some mates where I have started getting them to punt on if I will lose over or under 1kg each week. Have started with $100 bounty for the eventual winner. If they get it right one week it adds $10 to their potential kitty if they get it wrong then -$10.

                Currently using that as both accountability and motivation.

                The last six months have moved into a new house and have a big shed I have just finished turning into a proper home gym. Have power rack/plyo box/ cable machine/concept 2 rower/battle ropes and skipping rope and just topped up the bumper plates so have about 180kg to work with.

                Have 2x 40kg adjustable dumbbells arriving on Monday as the final thing.

                Will be working out 4-5 times per week with basketball 1-2 times (likely 1 at the moment as we have a new born baby in the house).

                Going to track down the old concept 2 thread and start chucking some rough looking times in there (just picked up a second hand concept 2 today for $450).

                Will post the progress as I go.

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                  Thought I would keep my word and post progress as I go....ten months on. Start of this year on Jan 1 did 75hard again (did it ages ago). Was more for the mental side and get discipline in check. First three weeks was basically on the road looking after a six month old while my misses was working at Adelaide open/aus open as a physio. Forced me to be really disciplined and managed to have have those two trips and another work trip away and came back with lower reading on the scales. Am doing the year long 75 hard thing so three phases of thirty days throughout the year. Have done the first thirty as well. Am down around 10kg so far aiming for another ten by end of the year.

                  Haven't drunk this year or since mid dec actually so nearly six months. Had drunk less and less over last couple of years as in benders so wasn't much of a change but will probably aim to go for the whole year then maybe ongoing or one blow out a year with the boys. Not really a wagon to fall off.

                  Aim is to do things outside my comfort zone this year. Started doing five minute rows as part of last thirty day challenge. Near the end I looked for indoor rowing competitions. Saw state champs are coming up saw I could be potentially competitive so just entered. It's in three weeks so now have to learn to row properly and get fitter in that time. Aiming to do the 1min max distance, 500m,1000m and 2000m.
                  Currently
                  1min:355m
                  500m: 1:27
                  1000m: 3:16
                  2000m: still got to test that far haha

                  Also doing some running training to try do 10km fun run in July. Ran 5km on the weekend which was furthest I've ran since 2021 when I broke my ankle.

                  Hopefully can tick both of those events off and continue on some consistent weight loss.

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                    Just tested 2000m time. 6.50 and didn't die aka had a decent amount left in the tank. Based on state champ results online that would have got me second two years ago and third last year. 6.40 would be in contention to win. Given my three weeks of training and no experience I feel I'm peaking well haha

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                      Did each event today with gaps between each to see how body went.
                      1min max: 355m (no warm up)
                      2000m: 6.42... after ten min rest....will be 1hour on the day.
                      500m:1.30 after hour rest. Had nothing
                      Went to one year old bday so had cake and few hours break.
                      1000m: 3.12

                      Learning. 2000m is disgusting to push yourself in. Also didn't really eat much before first couple I did.

                      Main learning for 2000m I'm only one minute and 6 seconds behind rob wadalls record....

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                        Also only about 6 seconds off usain bolts 100m record. Thinking might give both a nudge. Either that or identify as a woman.

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                        • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                          Just tested 2000m time. 6.50 and didn't die aka had a decent amount left in the tank. Based on state champ results online that would have got me second two years ago and third last year. 6.40 would be in contention to win. Given my three weeks of training and no experience I feel I'm peaking well haha

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                          @Magpie_in_aus said in Bodybuilding.....:

                          Just tested 2000m time. 6.50 and didn't die aka had a decent amount left in the tank. Based on state champ results online that would have got me second two years ago and third last year. 6.40 would be in contention to win. Given my three weeks of training and no experience I feel I'm peaking well haha

                          What comps are these you’re entering? Do you mean 6:40 might be a possible winning time for a certain age group? Do you need to qualify to enter?

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                            @Magpie_in_aus said in Bodybuilding.....:

                            Just tested 2000m time. 6.50 and didn't die aka had a decent amount left in the tank. Based on state champ results online that would have got me second two years ago and third last year. 6.40 would be in contention to win. Given my three weeks of training and no experience I feel I'm peaking well haha

                            What comps are these you’re entering? Do you mean 6:40 might be a possible winning time for a certain age group? Do you need to qualify to enter?

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                            @voodoo yeah qld state champs but each category is age brackets so I will be in 30-39. From what I can tell it's not the most popular sport going. Guess it's the equivalent of stationary cycling. Also no qualifying just paid $60. Pretty sure for nationals you can just rock up as well. Not sure on the go for worlds.
                            For the 2000m last year times:
                            1st 6.34 2nd 6.40 3rd 7.16
                            2021 times
                            1st 6.40 2nd 7.03 3rd 7.04

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                              Sunday story time. and entered. Got bronze in my first two events (max distance in 1min, and 2000m) and skipped my third race the 500m (would of got bronze in that...much faster then the third place guy much slower than first two) as thought I was a better change in the final 1000m race. Ended up coming fourth in the 1000m as a couple of guys who only entered that one race so were fresh. Pretty small field about 6 in my 30-39 age group for each race. My time for 2000m (6.37) and 1000m (3.07) would have got 1st place or second the last two years but got 3rd and fourth so good competitive field. Dude who won the 2000m distance was a fucking axe beat me by 30seconds and second place by 25. Fun experience outside my comfort zone.

                              Just got home from.basketball semi final as well. Didn't tell the team I did the races in case I sucked in the game. Played my best game of the season, got team appointed player of the game and onto the finals next week

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                                Update: lost basketball final. Third time in a row losing in the finals. Although last time I couldn't play as I got stuck in NZ with covid. Rather be part of a loss then be on a team that lost.

                                However tweaked my hammy in the last minute with the game out of reach which was annoying. Feeling like James Harden/Chris Paul/Joel Embid....no title and playoff injuries.

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                                  Spoke to a mate who did school rowing back in the day. He said they would have to try row 10k under 40mins for one of their tests. I gave 5k a try after that (as I had only rowed 2k leading into that comp). Managed a very casual 19.30min 5k basically just working on stroke rate and some random technique stuff. Few days later tried 10k went pretty consistent pace no sprint to end it managed 38.46. Main sore areas was the butt from sitting on the rower for that long and got like four blisters/blood blisters on my hands.

                                  Gave 5k another guy this afternoon managed 18.21 lots left in the tank. Annoyed I didn't get 18.19 as that would be sub 1.50 500m splits. Went a little faster the last 500m. Next aim will be sub 18 and longer goal 17.30 (1.45 splits)

                                  My 2k flat out sprint PB is averaging 1.39 splits so 1.45 will be a big ask.

                                  Sub 38 then sub 37 might be 10k goals.

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                                  • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                                    Spoke to a mate who did school rowing back in the day. He said they would have to try row 10k under 40mins for one of their tests. I gave 5k a try after that (as I had only rowed 2k leading into that comp). Managed a very casual 19.30min 5k basically just working on stroke rate and some random technique stuff. Few days later tried 10k went pretty consistent pace no sprint to end it managed 38.46. Main sore areas was the butt from sitting on the rower for that long and got like four blisters/blood blisters on my hands.

                                    Gave 5k another guy this afternoon managed 18.21 lots left in the tank. Annoyed I didn't get 18.19 as that would be sub 1.50 500m splits. Went a little faster the last 500m. Next aim will be sub 18 and longer goal 17.30 (1.45 splits)

                                    My 2k flat out sprint PB is averaging 1.39 splits so 1.45 will be a big ask.

                                    Sub 38 then sub 37 might be 10k goals.

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                                    @Magpie_in_aus said in Bodybuilding.....:

                                    Spoke to a mate who did school rowing back in the day. He said they would have to try row 10k under 40mins for one of their tests. I gave 5k a try after that (as I had only rowed 2k leading into that comp). Managed a very casual 19.30min 5k basically just working on stroke rate and some random technique stuff. Few days later tried 10k went pretty consistent pace no sprint to end it managed 38.46. Main sore areas was the butt from sitting on the rower for that long and got like four blisters/blood blisters on my hands.

                                    Gave 5k another guy this afternoon managed 18.21 lots left in the tank. Annoyed I didn't get 18.19 as that would be sub 1.50 500m splits. Went a little faster the last 500m. Next aim will be sub 18 and longer goal 17.30 (1.45 splits)

                                    My 2k flat out sprint PB is averaging 1.39 splits so 1.45 will be a big ask.

                                    Sub 38 then sub 37 might be 10k goals.

                                    I can't do the rower for more than 2k. Not because I'm tanked but because of arse soreness. Maybe I need more padding there 😆. Respect for being able to go that long.

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                                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                      @Magpie_in_aus said in Bodybuilding.....:

                                      Spoke to a mate who did school rowing back in the day. He said they would have to try row 10k under 40mins for one of their tests. I gave 5k a try after that (as I had only rowed 2k leading into that comp). Managed a very casual 19.30min 5k basically just working on stroke rate and some random technique stuff. Few days later tried 10k went pretty consistent pace no sprint to end it managed 38.46. Main sore areas was the butt from sitting on the rower for that long and got like four blisters/blood blisters on my hands.

                                      Gave 5k another guy this afternoon managed 18.21 lots left in the tank. Annoyed I didn't get 18.19 as that would be sub 1.50 500m splits. Went a little faster the last 500m. Next aim will be sub 18 and longer goal 17.30 (1.45 splits)

                                      My 2k flat out sprint PB is averaging 1.39 splits so 1.45 will be a big ask.

                                      Sub 38 then sub 37 might be 10k goals.

                                      I can't do the rower for more than 2k. Not because I'm tanked but because of arse soreness. Maybe I need more padding there 😆. Respect for being able to go that long.

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                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel yeah im slowly getting more tolerance for the distance. Guess its like cycling for long periods of time. Although I hate cycling for short periods of time so I wouldn't know.

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                                        Did a 5k time trial today in 17:55. Was pretty hard. Lots to navigate over that distance. Not sure what pace to start at and when to speed up etc etc. There's a concept 2 rowing WOD site that people submit their results daily. I would have come 7th worldwide out of 1591 with that time although a minute behind first. Ticked off sub 18, sub 17 hmmm dunno that's about 5seconds per 500m faster

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                                          The rower is crazy for fitness, can fark you so hard if you push it that little bit too much!

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