Hurricanes vs Crusaders
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@kev said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Winger said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Sinkinson was disappointing again. But overall a win against a weakened crusaders
Cameron makes a big difference at 1st. I wish love had been given more game time. Lineout was not great in the first half but after whitelock went off it was fine.
Without injury Love would have pushed for ABs this year. I really rate him.
He'd be starting the season behind Mo'unga, Barrett, Damian McKenzie and Stephen Perofeta, and that's without considering guys who aren't first five/fullback utilities like Shaun Stevenson, Will Jordan etc.
Maybe next year Love would be in with a chance but he's not yet proven himself a great Super Rugby player, he's still quite a way away from Test selection.
@Mr-Fish he hasn't proven himself at Super Rugby because he hasn't played this year and hardly played last year. He just needs time on the field. Hopefully he can have an injury free run.
He was excellent in the NPC, for the Maori and for the All Black XV so we can only mark him based on the teams he's played for.
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@booboo after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Flanders in the mix for that 6 jersey. Maybe a year too early though but he was outstanding tonight, physically starting to impose himself at this level.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@booboo after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Flanders in the mix for that 6 jersey. Maybe a year too early though but he was outstanding tonight, physically starting to impose himself at this level.
Stargazer just mopping up after reading that post.
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Player ratings from rugbypass
I like looking at these rating when I don't watch a match
But maybe I won't bother now.
Booth got a 7. The highest rating of all the replacements. I would give him a 3 or 4. If he had been on longer we would have lost the game. He looked lost almost as if his brain wasn't quite connecting with his body. And Sinkinson got a 7. Maybe all based on one 50/22. I thought he looked very average. Maybe a 5
The standout backs for me were Naholo, Proctor, Barrett, Cameron in the 2nd half and Roigard. Get Love back at FB and move Moorby to the wing and Canes have a VG backline
The issue will be the lineouts. It's just too short. We were lucky that Whitelock went off otherwise we wouldn't have won.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hurricanes-player-ratings-vs-crusaders-in-wellington/
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/crusaders-player-ratings-vs-hurricanes-super-rugby-pacific-3/
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It is the 2nd half and the Crusaders are under the pump and so decide to play a lot of their rugby in their own 22. Mounga kicks up and unders, they throw the ball around willy nilly, all in their 22. Nobody kicks it long or work their way upfield through their lineout which is dominating.
This is why for the ABs, I think Dmac should run the cutter, Jordan can go to wing, and someone with tactical nous and a long boot goes to fullback (Stevenson at the moment). -
@booboo after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Flanders in the mix for that 6 jersey. Maybe a year too early though but he was outstanding tonight, physically starting to impose himself at this level.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@booboo after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Flanders in the mix for that 6 jersey. Maybe a year too early though but he was outstanding tonight, physically starting to impose himself at this level.
Though he had a quieter game tonight. Unlike earlier games where he has been outstanding at times.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@booboo after tonight I wouldn't mind seeing Flanders in the mix for that 6 jersey. Maybe a year too early though but he was outstanding tonight, physically starting to impose himself at this level.
Though he had a quieter game tonight. Unlike earlier games where he has been outstanding at times.
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Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
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Just watched. Thought Jordie and Roigard were great for Canes. Moorby Iose Blackwell all good too. Crusaders were a bit ragged with some AB's maybe not as commited on defence in a game that doesn't count for placings. Lio Willie and LF added some good go forward.
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Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
Ah, we know who is at 10, it's an issue
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
Ah, we know who is at 10, it's an issue
@mariner4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
Ah, we know who is at 10, it's an issue
Ha ha, that’s a very fair point.
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Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Jordie has been a bit poor this year, but when you look at the Canes scoring plays, he's heavily involved. He brought some heavy carries, nice touches, and a sweet offload in at least three of those tries.
His kicking is a problem, but depending on who is at 10, that shouldn't be an issue.
Why is his kicking a problem< he kicks out of hand at least as good (I believe better) than any other contenders for the 12 jersey, and for that matter even at goal, who is better? I thought he was bloody good last night, and hasn't been that bad this year, watch how much defence he has attracted most games.
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Player ratings from rugbypass
I like looking at these rating when I don't watch a match
But maybe I won't bother now.
Booth got a 7. The highest rating of all the replacements. I would give him a 3 or 4. If he had been on longer we would have lost the game. He looked lost almost as if his brain wasn't quite connecting with his body. And Sinkinson got a 7. Maybe all based on one 50/22. I thought he looked very average. Maybe a 5
The standout backs for me were Naholo, Proctor, Barrett, Cameron in the 2nd half and Roigard. Get Love back at FB and move Moorby to the wing and Canes have a VG backline
The issue will be the lineouts. It's just too short. We were lucky that Whitelock went off otherwise we wouldn't have won.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hurricanes-player-ratings-vs-crusaders-in-wellington/
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/crusaders-player-ratings-vs-hurricanes-super-rugby-pacific-3/
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I watched the first half then went out for dinner, just finished watching the second half - was an unexpected turn around.
@Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
I watched the first half then went out for dinner, just finished watching the second half - was an unexpected turn around.
I went for a beer run when the Canes scored late in the first half and the potential future Mrs MN5 went on a toilet run when they scored in the second half. As long as one of us wasn’t there watching they played really well. Probably a good thing I’m not going to the next home game ( if there is one )
Fun atmosphere though, the Coles/Taylor ding dong niggle was outstanding entertainment. Great stuff from both of them.
Blackwell looks tall in the flesh when he’s standing next to the shorter members of the backline
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@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
This been posted?
https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1665177253490364416?t=_kXH_MHAEcr_P_zlH0Outg&s=19
Brilliant
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@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
This been posted?
https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1665177253490364416?t=_kXH_MHAEcr_P_zlH0Outg&s=19
Brilliant
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Crusaders have been very much like the Blues last night.
With nothing on the line, perhaps minds are already thinking about next week…
@Gunner said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Crusaders have been very much like the Blues last night.
With nothing on the line, perhaps minds are already thinking about next week…
Like the Chiefs then? But they won big.
It used to be common wisdom that the Crusaders were just ruthless. Not today.
