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QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes

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  • Number 10N Number 10

    Referee Nic Berry

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    @Number-10 is that a good thing? I haven’t watched him in a while.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @Number-10 is that a good thing? I haven’t watched him in a while.

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      @Canes4life Berry is all over the shop but then he's not alone on that front. All the QF refs have their issues. Pick your poison

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        The Chiefs have had Berry in the last 2 games, and I have been generally happy. I like that he calls out the halfbacks who try to milk a penalty at the ruck.

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          First rule of thumb is not to get hung up on who refs. You obviously have a peek at what he looks at, but they shouldn't think on it much.

          And as a supporter never worries me who ref is, I never allow it as an excuse anyway.

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          • F foobaNZ

            Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

            I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

            Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

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            @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

            Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

            I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

            Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

            He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

            Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

            But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

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              Canes to tip the ponies over in Canberra and end the Australian finals charge by 10pm Saturday

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              • WingerW Winger

                @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

                I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

                Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

                He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

                Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

                But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

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                @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

                I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

                Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

                He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

                Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

                But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

                I am sure the coaches realise the importance of lineout, I quite sure is us keyboard warriors do , they know a lot more than us. They also will no doubt way up general play, scrumming ability and everything else that is involved in a game of rugby. They just don't watch game on tv, but whole thing.

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                  @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                  Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

                  I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

                  Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

                  He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

                  Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

                  But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

                  I am sure the coaches realise the importance of lineout, I quite sure is us keyboard warriors do , they know a lot more than us. They also will no doubt way up general play, scrumming ability and everything else that is involved in a game of rugby. They just don't watch game on tv, but whole thing.

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                  @Dan54 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                  @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                  @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                  Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

                  I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

                  Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

                  He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

                  Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

                  But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

                  I am sure the coaches realise the importance of lineout, I quite sure is us keyboard warriors do , they know a lot more than us. They also will no doubt way up general play, scrumming ability and everything else that is involved in a game of rugby. They just don't watch game on tv, but whole thing.

                  I dunno. Our lineout has been dreadful.

                  Blackwell not all to blame but a bigger body would no doubt help in the air. We won't win anything with a 50/50 line out.

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                    Screenshot 2023-06-07 at 3.02.56 PM.png

                    Hurricanes v Brumbies

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                      Same QF as last year

                      Canes had a healthy lead and then conceded the last 20 points

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                        Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                        We've got this. 😄

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Screenshot 2023-06-07 at 3.02.56 PM.png

                          Hurricanes v Brumbies

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                          @Duluth jeez that's a shocking record isn't it. Mind you they must have a pretty awful record in Wellington because isn't the head to head overall quite close?

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                            We've got this. 😄

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                            @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                            Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                            We've got this. 😄

                            And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

                            In da bag uce

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                              We've got this. 😄

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                              @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                              Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                              We've got this. 😄

                              As long as Booth doesn't get 20 minutes...

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                                We've got this. 😄

                                And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

                                In da bag uce

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

                                In da bag uce

                                Only if he plays at 6 🙂

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                  Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                                  We've got this. 😄

                                  And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

                                  In da bag uce

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                  @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                  Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

                                  We've got this. 😄

                                  And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

                                  Sure, as an impact utility. Collins, McCaw & Read start for me.

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                                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-named-for-quarter-final-clash-in-canberra

                                    1 Xavier Numia
                                    2 Dane Coles
                                    3 Tyrel Lomax (50th Hurricanes Game)
                                    4 James Blackwell
                                    5 Caleb Delany
                                    6 Devan Flanders
                                    7 Ardie Savea (Captain)
                                    8 Brayden Iose
                                    9 Cam Roigard
                                    10 Brett Cameron
                                    11 Kini Naholo
                                    12 Jordie Barrett
                                    13 Billy Proctor
                                    14 Daniel Sinkinson
                                    15 Josh Moorby

                                    Replacements
                                    16 Asafo Aumua
                                    17 Tevita Mafileo
                                    18 Owen Franks
                                    19 Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                    20 Du’Plessis Kirifi
                                    21 Jamie Booth
                                    22 Ruben Love
                                    23 Bailyn Sullivan

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                                      James Slipper, Lachlan Lonergan, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Tom Hooper, Jahrome Brown, Pete Samu, Nic White (c), Jack Debreczeni, Ollie Sapsford, Tamati Tua, Len Ikitau, Andy Muirhead, Tom Wright

                                      Reserves: Connal McInerney, Blake Schoupp, Rhys Van Nek, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Ryan Lonergan, Noah Lolesio, Jesse Mogg

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                                        I feel like Holland has been helped a bit. Can't pick Jules if he's injured.

                                        Good team, obviously we'd all swap out Blackwell but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it.

                                        Any one know why Pouri is on the outer this year? I thought he'd been one of our best the last few years.

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                                          Valetini injured?

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