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QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @Canes4life

    @Duluth said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    James Slipper, Lachlan Lonergan, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Tom Hooper, Jahrome Brown, Pete Samu, Nic White (c), Jack Debreczeni, Ollie Sapsford, Tamati Tua, Len Ikitau, Andy Muirhead, Tom Wright

    Reserves: Connal McInerney, Blake Schoupp, Rhys Van Nek, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Ryan Lonergan, Noah Lolesio, Jesse Mogg

    Unsure if the above team is correct

    But Canes give away a lot of height in the lineout

    Blackwell 1.90
    Delany 1.95
    Flanders 1.93
    IWL 1.97

    Compared
    Frost 2.05
    Neville 2.02
    Hooper 1.99

    Your’e saying this like it’s a new thing.

    They did last week against the Crusaders and it wasn’t a problem then.

    ( once Whitelock went off and Taylor got sin binned )

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    @MN5 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @Canes4life

    @Duluth said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    But Canes give away a lot of height in the lineout

    Blackwell 1.90
    Delany 1.95
    Flanders 1.93
    IWL 1.97

    Compared
    Frost 2.05
    Neville 2.02
    Valetini 1.93
    Hooper 1.99

    Your’e saying this like it’s a new thing.

    They did last week against the Crusaders and it wasn’t a problem then.

    ( once Whitelock went off and Taylor got sin binned )

    Agree. I should have added again. But coaches likely thought it was fine last week as they won

    It Rob Valetini at 6. So hes only 1.93 so the height adv is less now

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    • WingerW Winger

      @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

      Any one know why Pouri is on the outer this year

      He's had a few games. But who would you drop. Numia has been playing very well this year. Much better than last year in SRP

      The surprise selection for me is Sinkinson. I thought he was fairly average last WE and his only other start. Useless Booth and short with limited ball skills Blackwell I expected to be selected but either could lose us this game. Both we have other options

      It's a shame as with a few changes it would be a very strong side. I would feel confident with luck of going all the way. Now I feel we will need luck on our side to win this one. Esp in the lineout.

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      @Winger yes I'd have Sullivan over Sinkinson on that wing, even if Sullivan isn't a natural winger.

      If Love has a few more weeks under his belt our best back 3 would be Naholo, Love & Moorby.

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      • F foobaNZ

        I feel like Holland has been helped a bit. Can't pick Jules if he's injured.

        Good team, obviously we'd all swap out Blackwell but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it.

        Any one know why Pouri is on the outer this year? I thought he'd been one of our best the last few years.

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        @foobaNZ Pouri probably hasn’t done much wrong but Numia and Mafileo have been very solid so they’ve been hard to drop I guess.

        I definitely would have started Sullivan over Sinkinson. I’d like more experience in a game like this and thought Sinkinson still has a bit to learn on defence at this level.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @foobaNZ Pouri probably hasn’t done much wrong but Numia and Mafileo have been very solid so they’ve been hard to drop I guess.

          I definitely would have started Sullivan over Sinkinson. I’d like more experience in a game like this and thought Sinkinson still has a bit to learn on defence at this level.

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          @Canes4life I thought the same thing watching Sinkinson, he seemed a bit lost at times. Fingers crossed he has a good one.

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            Hurricanes now slight favourites at the TAB ($1.77).

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Debreczeni over Noah is interesting.

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              @KiwiMurph said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

              Debreczeni over Noah is interesting.

              From a Ponies perspective, a very good move. Deb can play both deep and flat whereas Noah doesn’t vary it. Deb has a good boot too

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                @KiwiMurph said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                Debreczeni over Noah is interesting.

                From a Ponies perspective, a very good move. Deb can play both deep and flat whereas Noah doesn’t vary it. Deb has a good boot too

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                @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                @KiwiMurph said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                Debreczeni over Noah is interesting.

                From a Ponies perspective, a very good move. Deb can play both deep and flat whereas Noah doesn’t vary it. Deb has a good boot too

                Defensively he's better too.

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                  I'm not sure how accurate this site is but it seems to have a pretty updated list of players and their height / weight - https://all.rugby/club/hurricanes/squad

                  James Blackwell is listed as 1.90m, but he weighs in at 114kg
                  Caleb Delany is listed at 1.95m and weighs 115kg
                  Justin Sangster is listed at 1.98m and weighs 115kg
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere is listed at 1.97m and weighs 122kg

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    I'm not sure how accurate this site is but it seems to have a pretty updated list of players and their height / weight - https://all.rugby/club/hurricanes/squad

                    James Blackwell is listed as 1.90m, but he weighs in at 114kg
                    Caleb Delany is listed at 1.95m and weighs 115kg
                    Justin Sangster is listed at 1.98m and weighs 115kg
                    Isaia Walker-Leawere is listed at 1.97m and weighs 122kg

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                    @Canes4life

                    And Birds 2.06 and 126. And they are all fit to start.

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                      @Canes4life

                      And Birds 2.06 and 126. And they are all fit to start.

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                      @Winger we should really be starting IWL and Bird for this one. I highly rate Delany but I’m really worried that having two smaller locks is going to make it almost impossible to stop their rolling maul.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Winger we should really be starting IWL and Bird for this one. I highly rate Delany but I’m really worried that having two smaller locks is going to make it almost impossible to stop their rolling maul.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Winger we should really be starting IWL and Bird for this one. I highly rate Delany but I’m really worried that having two smaller locks is going to make it almost impossible to stop their rolling maul.

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                          @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                          @Winger we should really be starting IWL and Bird for this one. I highly rate Delany but I’m really worried that having two smaller locks is going to make it almost impossible to stop their rolling maul.

                          And win lineouts. Delany was VG last week. Like Blackwell high work rate last full game etc but better ball skills and taller.

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                            Canes by 5

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                              Canes by 5

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                              @NTA said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                              Canes by 5

                              If canes had 2 taller locks we would be strong favourites. As it is its 50/50 for me. Maybe a slight home adv brumbies

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                              • NTAN NTA

                                Canes by 5

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                                @NTA said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

                                Canes by 5

                                Multiple attempts to reverse jinx....

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                                  Deb at 10 for the Brumbies points to going back to the territory game that has worked in the past.
                                  Hope the Canes have watched how the Chiefs nullified the maul or they will have a painful night.

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                                    Deb at 10 for the Brumbies points to going back to the territory game that has worked in the past.
                                    Hope the Canes have watched how the Chiefs nullified the maul or they will have a painful night.

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                                    @Crucial it's not hard to predict what the Brumbies are going to bring. They are going to use JD to play for territory and then they are going to try and put us under pressure defensively in our own half.

                                    The main thing we can't do is go into our shells. We have to hold onto possession and slowly chip away at the Brumbies line. The Hurricanes are the best attacking team in the comp so cracks will appear eventually, we just have to be PATIENT, along with employing a smarter kicking game than we have in previous weeks and obviously nullifying their strengths in the red zone.

                                    This game could go either way which is exciting, I just hope our season doesn't end in Canberra for the third year running.

                                    I'm picking the Canes to edge it by 6 points because our bench looks a lot stronger than theirs.

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                                      Are the Hurricanes really the best attacking team in the competition (at least in any way that points to future success)? Take out their two floggings of Moana and all the metres, linebreaks and points they accumulated in those two matches and I suspect their attacking stats would look decidedly average this year.

                                      Maybe it's a moot point, but I think the Hurricanes' attack has actually taken a step down this year compared to seasons gone.

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                                        Purely on the basis that the law of averages and what history tells you, we won't see all four Kiwi teams in the semis, so sorry Hurricanes fans... Brumbies will be right up for it at home, and I see them having too much across the park.

                                        That said, I've sucked at picking this year so what would I know.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Crucial it's not hard to predict what the Brumbies are going to bring. They are going to use JD to play for territory and then they are going to try and put us under pressure defensively in our own half.

                                          The main thing we can't do is go into our shells. We have to hold onto possession and slowly chip away at the Brumbies line. The Hurricanes are the best attacking team in the comp so cracks will appear eventually, we just have to be PATIENT, along with employing a smarter kicking game than we have in previous weeks and obviously nullifying their strengths in the red zone.

                                          This game could go either way which is exciting, I just hope our season doesn't end in Canberra for the third year running.

                                          I'm picking the Canes to edge it by 6 points because our bench looks a lot stronger than theirs.

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                                          @Canes4life for what it’s worth I have the Canes at 1-8 as well.
                                          Just think the Brumbies are a bit too predictable. Although that was shown up by the Chiefs so Larkham may have a few other plans thrown in

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