QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes
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@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Hurricanes need some locks and loose forwards who put in dominant hits on defence.
We've needed those since Jerry
Well they have got Brad Shields and Reed Prinsep on their books, do they fit the bill? Is TK Howden still around next season?
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@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Looking forward to watching Barrett tonight. Had some big moments last week.
That comment was a kiss of death.
Jordie was very average. No punch, nothing.He has two problems - he just runs straight and hard all the time ( no subtle variations ) and his decision making has always been mixed ( prone to brain fades ). But he has strengths - he runs straight and hard, has a massive boot.
@kev said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Looking forward to watching Barrett tonight. Had some big moments last week.
That comment was a kiss of death.
Jordie was very average. No punch, nothing.He has two problems - he just runs straight and hard all the time ( no subtle variations ) and his decision making has always been mixed ( prone to brain fades ). But he has strengths - he runs straight and hard, has a massive boot.
I don’t buy that. He didn’t bend the line last night. Drifted sideways a bit and that took away his main power. Hardly used his boot at all.
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@kev said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Looking forward to watching Barrett tonight. Had some big moments last week.
That comment was a kiss of death.
Jordie was very average. No punch, nothing.He has two problems - he just runs straight and hard all the time ( no subtle variations ) and his decision making has always been mixed ( prone to brain fades ). But he has strengths - he runs straight and hard, has a massive boot.
I don’t buy that. He didn’t bend the line last night. Drifted sideways a bit and that took away his main power. Hardly used his boot at all.
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@Bones said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Kirwan said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Hideous. Rieko would get accused of being a winger...
It's one of those rare occasions where the outcome of the match was entirely in the hands of one player. And Jordie bottled it
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@Bones said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Kirwan said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Hideous. Rieko would get accused of being a winger...
It's one of those rare occasions where the outcome of the match was entirely in the hands of one player. And Jordie bottled it
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@canefan it's hard to understand what he was thinking, but is that Lolesio he's running at? Players are often told not to risk the pass if it's pretty much a sure thing themselves...
@Bones said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@canefan it's hard to understand what he was thinking, but is that Lolesio he's running at? Players are often told not to risk the pass if it's pretty much a sure thing themselves...
Hopefully he will never do this again. Pass and it was almost a certain try. Go for it, much less than 50/50.
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@canefan it's hard to understand what he was thinking, but is that Lolesio he's running at? Players are often told not to risk the pass if it's pretty much a sure thing themselves...
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@Bones said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
Players are often told not to risk the pass if it's pretty much a sure thing themselves...
Not sure that applies with a man open. He didn't even run at the outside shoulder. Defender was on his heels.
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@NTA can't even go through Lolesio on his heels... how do we train the impact out of our players?
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@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumb
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@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumb@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
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@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
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@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
Nah this is utter bollocks, unless he has x-ray vision - bullshit
Holland said there was “no doubt” in his mind that Savea scored.
“Ardie scored the try, there’s no doubt about that but it’s a good one to figure out about TMOs. Is it about speeding the game up or is it about getting it right?
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
Nah this is utter bollocks, unless he has x-ray vision - bullshit
Holland said there was “no doubt” in his mind that Savea scored.
“Ardie scored the try, there’s no doubt about that but it’s a good one to figure out about TMOs. Is it about speeding the game up or is it about getting it right?
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
Nah this is utter bollocks, unless he has x-ray vision - bullshit
Holland said there was “no doubt” in his mind that Savea scored.
“Ardie scored the try, there’s no doubt about that but it’s a good one to figure out about TMOs. Is it about speeding the game up or is it about getting it right?
The footage combined with Ardie saying he scored is probably enough for him to have no doubt. So he shouldn't believe Ardie?
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@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
Nah this is utter bollocks, unless he has x-ray vision - bullshit
Holland said there was “no doubt” in his mind that Savea scored.
“Ardie scored the try, there’s no doubt about that but it’s a good one to figure out about TMOs. Is it about speeding the game up or is it about getting it right?
The footage combined with Ardie saying he scored is probably enough for him to have no doubt. So he shouldn't believe Ardie?
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Crucial said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:
No class, unlike his Captain
Story doesn't really match the headline.
Could be reporting emphasis but what he is saying is correct.
Just questioning whether the process is correct if TMO can't answer open question.
If he was really pissy he should have asked why TMO didn't look at the tackler being offside or the illegal slowing of the ball at the ruck just before.
However TMO should have also flagged Jordie as being too dumbFair point that the headline doesn't exactly match the story. I still think it was classless from Holland. Even if the referee asks "try, yes or no", the correct call is still held up. There was no definite angle where he grounded the ball.
It also goes without saying that the TMO wasn't brought into the game to remove contentious decisions. Rugby is a game of perspective and people can have different perspectives for different tries. The TMO gets rid of howlers and does a good job at that.
I don't see anything classless about what he said. Good to heat a bit of honesty for a change. It's better than the sanitised bullshit we mostly get nowadays.
Nah this is utter bollocks, unless he has x-ray vision - bullshit
Holland said there was “no doubt” in his mind that Savea scored.
“Ardie scored the try, there’s no doubt about that but it’s a good one to figure out about TMOs. Is it about speeding the game up or is it about getting it right?
The footage combined with Ardie saying he scored is probably enough for him to have no doubt. So he shouldn't believe Ardie?
He can believe Ardie if he wants but he seems to expect the ref to believe him as well. The Brumbies player also believes he held Ardie up. So, who do we believe? Well, we go to the footage which didn't show a clear grounding.
It is classless to believe there is a system problem because a line call goes against you.
