NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship)
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This will be a pretty good benchmark for our future I reckon. See if we've learned anything about modern rugby over the last few years of getting monstered up front at this level.
@MajorRage
I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
I would hope to see something different. -
@Stargazer Tom Allen gets a start. Stats I saw said he's 1.97, 114 and age as 18. Young if correct. And a big lad .
Lakai starting at 7 instead of 8. I think this could be his best position. Keen to see how he goes
@Winger said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
Tom Allen gets a start. Stats I saw said he's 1.97, 114 and age as 18. Young if correct. And a big lad .
I think he's taller than that as I noted when the team was lined up for the anthems to play Aust that Allen looked taller than Cahill, who is listed as 1.98 m. All the NZ Schools locks from last year (including Allen) were similar in height so hopefully that bodes well for the future.
Laidlaw hasn't made too many changes, and picked the loose forward trio I was hoping for.
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@MajorRage
I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
I would hope to see something different.@Chris said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
@MajorRage
I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
I would hope to see something different.Exactly. We've either learned or we haven't. Time to see.
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@MajorRage
I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
I would hope to see something different.weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.
Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg
Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg
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weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.
Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg
Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg
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weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.
Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg
Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg
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@Bovidae said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
@Winger Are you listing the NZ stats? Che Clarke is 1.90 m+.
Yes. He looked taller so checked another site. Said 1.90 and only 93kg. But likely put on weight since then. Is so it's a pack that has good height and weight
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How does that compare to the French pack ?
Australia looked well drilled up front, it will be very interesting the forward battle no problems with our backs imo. -
How does that compare to the French pack ?
Australia looked well drilled up front, it will be very interesting the forward battle no problems with our backs imo.@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
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@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
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@Daffy-Jaffy Tuilagi seems a bit heavy for a lock?
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@Stargazer might be hard to get up in the air!
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@Tim I guess he will do more lifting than jumping -
@Daffy-Jaffy There's a person that doesn't want more "ball in play" time.
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@Stargazer said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
New Zealand U20 v France U20
Thursday 29 June 2023
Kick-off 11.30pm NZT
Sky Sport 1On Stan for West Island Ferners. Coverage starts at the precise time of 9:19pm AEST.
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@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
@Daffy-Jaffy said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
I find it interesting that given his size and the way he plays, why he isn’t playing in the loose as opposed to lock. Do they have a 6 and 8 that are barnstorming that have to be selected?
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According to Wikipedia he is Henry Tuilagi's son.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):
@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
I find it interesting that given his size and the way he plays, why he isn’t playing in the loose as opposed to lock. Do they have a 6 and 8 that are barnstorming that have to be selected?
@ACT-Crusader Gazzotti the No. 8 is 1.92m and 110kg so a decent size. Both Tuilagi and Liufau are listed as backrow forwards on that linked squad list.
This French team put 60+ points on the Wesh team that we struggled to get past.
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@Chris The French locks -
4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kgand Tuilagi is only 18!
@Daffy-Jaffy
Thanks mate, some big units for u/20s -
Here's the NZ match stats (including weight height and ages of all the players)
https://all.rugby/match/18892/u20-championship-2023/wales-u20-new-zealand-u20
Tom Allen is only 18 according to this
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Here's the NZ match stats (including weight height and ages of all the players)
https://all.rugby/match/18892/u20-championship-2023/wales-u20-new-zealand-u20
Tom Allen is only 18 according to this
