RWC warmup - Ireland v England
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Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
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Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
@sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
Amazing he’s never been RC before
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I feel quite blessed that I only got to watch about 20 minutes of that game. We were absolutely clueless. I can’t see any progression under Borthwick, in fact, quite the opposite. You’d have thought these blokes had just met each other for the first time. Their body language was screaming that they don’t believe in what they’re doing.
It’s a fucking shambles.
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One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
Hopefully NZ
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Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
@sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
Crikey. Horrible hit.
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Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
@sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
Deserves to sit out WC for that.
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The Irish “dummy” runners…. Thought I was watching NFL preseason
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@sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
Deserves to sit out WC for that.
@MajorRage said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
@sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.
Deserves to sit out WC for that.
Nah, he couldn't control that significant change in direction from the ball carrier.
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The Irish “dummy” runners…. Thought I was watching NFL preseason
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
The Irish “dummy” runners…. Thought I was watching NFL preseason
A long running pet peeve of mine. They are initiating contact 5 yards ahead of the ball. And have been for years.
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I’d rather be Wales than England at this stage
@MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
I’d rather be Wales than England at this stage
That’s a fair call regardless of the Rugby
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
Hopefully NZ
@Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
Hopefully NZ.
Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment
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@Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
Hopefully NZ.
Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment
@Nevorian said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
@Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.
Hopefully NZ.
Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment
If by "Finals" you mean the knockout rounds, FYI:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6170/best-of-rwc-2007?_=1692507144812
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An aspect of the England coaching that has been vexing me is the box kick defence we employ. If you can call it that. Most teams, Wales in particular do this well, once the kick is in the air there is a screen of players retreating to assist the catcher but their real job of course is to protect him from the kick chaser getting a decent hit on him. I dislike this defence as to me it is organised obstruction, but it is legal and effective. England do not seem to employ this defence, or if they do it is very disorganised to the extent it is useless. I’d have thought this would be an important thing to have in the armoury and pretty easy to fix.
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An aspect of the England coaching that has been vexing me is the box kick defence we employ. If you can call it that. Most teams, Wales in particular do this well, once the kick is in the air there is a screen of players retreating to assist the catcher but their real job of course is to protect him from the kick chaser getting a decent hit on him. I dislike this defence as to me it is organised obstruction, but it is legal and effective. England do not seem to employ this defence, or if they do it is very disorganised to the extent it is useless. I’d have thought this would be an important thing to have in the armoury and pretty easy to fix.
There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.
Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.
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England have the cattle but those cattle don't perform at their best at Borthball
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There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.
Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.
Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.
Re the second para, we’ve seen over the last 6 months or so, that England CAN play but it seems limited to the final 10 minutes when its is too late. It’s like they have Carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.
Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.
Re the second para, we’ve seen over the last 6 months or so, that England CAN play but it seems limited to the final 10 minutes when its is too late. It’s like they have Carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.
@Catogrande said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:
It’s like they have carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.
Looks like the change from Comical Eddie to Borthwick has been a lot more problematical but what momentum there is looks to be backwards. It's not as if you can see them trying things and not coming off, there's just built-in lethargy.
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Feels dirty to agree with Woodwhinge, but he's spot-on here.
