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    @MiketheSnow Better still if Ireland are knocked out at the pool stage. At least Scotland are occasionally capable of making a semifinal

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    Reports that Farrell has been given a 4 match ban starting from the Ireland game last WE.

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    https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rwc23-summer-nations-series-owen-farrell-disciplinary-update

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    Farrell will miss England’s first two RWC pool games.

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    The previous panel were fucking incompetent, it was always a shoulder charge, not tackle. Therefore no mitigation allowed, useless Ozzie fluffybunnies

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    So the question now is what to do with those that rescinded the card?

    Have to be off the payroll surely.

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    Starting point is 6 matches

    How the fuck did he get the reduction to 4?

    Just fuck off World Rugby

    You dropped the ball over the line

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    And, what's worse, they are counting the match he missed against Ireland as one of the matches that count toward his suspension. Quite bizarre how this can happen when he missed selection for that game despite being completely free from suspension and available for selection at the time the game took place.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

    Starting point is 6 matches

    How the fuck did he get the reduction to 4?

    Just fuck off World Rugby

    You dropped the ball over the line

    "good character", "apology", those mickey mouse factors. It's a ridiculous system

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    @Tordah
    Good character, apart from the previous bans for the same thing, and remorse, after claiming he was innocent.

    This is panel is less incompetent than the first one, but not by much.

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    @MajorRage that would be too harsh, I'm sure there were mitigating circumstances

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    @Higgins I think this is standard practice, so I'm less annoyed by the backdating than the fact that another panel has managed to pull some imaginary mitigation out of their arses.

    Entry level is 6 weeks - if anything it should have gone up from there, due to "bad character" (plenty of previous), lack of remorse and pleading innocent.

    Let's just say I'm sure that a Tongan, Namibian or Chilean wouldn't have got away with 4.

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    @GibbonRib said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

    Let's just say I'm sure that a Tongan, Namibian or Chilean wouldn't have got away with 4.

    Moala got mitigated down to 5 weeks from 10 weeks entry point (which he is now appealing)

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    @KiwiMurph have to admit I haven't seen that one, I should go look it up.

    Not sure if you're saying this in agreement or disagreement with my comment?

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    @GibbonRib said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

    @KiwiMurph have to admit I haven't seen that one, I should go look it up.

    Not sure if you're saying this in agreement or disagreement with my comment?

    Disagreement. Moala got 50% mitigation reduction.

    Farrell got 33% mitigation reduction (due to his prior record so not eligible for tackle school).

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    @KiwiMurph correction: Farrell got a 100% reduction - he was, astoundingly, found to have not committed a red card offence.

    It took a big backlash from the global rugby community, including plenty of English press and former players, and an appeal from WR for him to actually receive any sanction, and even then he got a 33% reduction.

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    Farrell was initially given a six-match ban, reduced to four due to his “acceptance of foul play, clear demonstration of remorse and his good character”.

    At least the two games missed are England's toughest, Argentina and Japan

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    @Machpants I hope you're right that they're the toughest, as that would mean England not making it to the quarters

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    There are two unsavoury issues here; firstly the Farrell tackle. As has been said, plenty of previous, been to tackle school (failed the exam surely) and no acceptance of guilt. To me, that is all quite clear and ok if he wants to fight the accusation then that’s his prerogative and he takes the consequences. The secondary issue of the handling of this is to me a much bigger issue and reeks of either incompetence or arrogant corruption followed by a quick realisation that the optics aren’t good , so we’ll get the proverbial wet bus ticket out. Now, none of that secondary issue is down to Farrell and he should not get stick for the way it was handled.

    In the end he got off a bit lightly, but that’s not without precedence. How he got there is and has shown up the judiciary, WR and the whole idea of player welfare in a terrible light.

    And all that just as the legal claims are gaining traction…

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    @Catogrande said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

    In the end he got off a bit lightly, but that’s not without precedence. How he got there is and has shown up the judiciary, WR and the whole idea of player welfare in a terrible light.

    And all that just as the legal claims are gaining traction…

    Can't help thinking the only way around this is to ban tackling above the waist/chest, WR and everyone else knows it but they can't quite bite the bullet - big hits being a bit of a gladiatorial spectacle

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