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RWC Week 1: England v Argentina

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    Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

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    • mantissanetM mantissanet

      Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

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      @mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:

      Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

      For both sides

      Raynal was no better or worse than he normally is and no decision was big enough to ‘rob’ the other team of a win

      Argentina deservedly lost the match and it was a brilliant effort from a 14 man England

      If Borthwick picks the right team for each match there’s no reason England can’t get to a SF

      And as 2019 showed anything can happen then

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      • mantissanetM mantissanet

        Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

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        MajorPom
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        @mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:

        Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

        No different to any other rugby match.

        Whole game is a lottery, which is why many people are switching it off.

        Score line reflected the match.

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          @Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:

          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:

          How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?

          You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.

          Sad since '53, it's understandable

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          @BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:

          @Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:

          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:

          How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?

          You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.

          Sad since '53, it's understandable

          Especially if you’ve been there

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          • SmutsS Smuts

            @BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            @Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?

            You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.

            Sad since '53, it's understandable

            Especially if you’ve been there

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            @Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            @BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            @Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:

            How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?

            You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.

            Sad since '53, it's understandable

            Especially if you’ve been there

            I’m not that old

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            • L Luigi

              @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v Argentina:

              Stolen from Twitter - but it was my own tweet I stole from.

              Everyone: You don't win World Cup games with drop goals any more.

              George Ford: Hold my Jannie de Beer

              Gonna use that!

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              @Luigi I'll send you my bank details - I have very reasonable rates

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                @mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:

                Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...

                No different to any other rugby match.

                Whole game is a lottery, which is why many people are switching it off.

                Score line reflected the match.

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                @MajorRage Pretty different in my book. Not even 7030... Just Dire. Raynal is either inept or bought…

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                  I thought the ref was appalling, and the Poms played to his 'interpretations' better: that interpretation largely being that tacklers actually don't need to release the ball carrier.
                  There's nobody to blame but yourselves when you lose that badly to a 14 man team though.

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                    Incredible display of mental strength and discipline (after the red card) to stick to a system, grit your teeth and just keep doing the hard yards.

                    Unfortunately might just be the jolt of confidence that England need to get them back on track.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @NTA That's generally how games are won...

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                      @Catogrande said in RWC: England v Argentina:

                      @NTA That's generally how games are won...

                      I just hope any draws are decided by number of tries scored

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                      • No QuarterN Offline
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                        Fucking class display from the English though, completely shutting Argentina down after the early red was very impressive. If they play like that they'll give anyone a run. Very hard to break down and the way Ford is striking it he becomes a real threat come the knock out stages.

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300968610/england-fans-fury-as-rugby-world-cup-venues-in-france-run-out-of-beer-midgame

                          https://tenor.com/SSJT.gif

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300968610/england-fans-fury-as-rugby-world-cup-venues-in-france-run-out-of-beer-midgame

                            https://tenor.com/SSJT.gif

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                            @Machpants said in RWC Week 1: England v Argentina:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300968610/england-fans-fury-as-rugby-world-cup-venues-in-france-run-out-of-beer-midgame

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                            I applaud. Stops said English fans going out during the match and blocking the view.

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                            • L Luigi

                              Great description of England from the Guardian:

                              “ Their team have turned up for the biggest party in the sport in a work shirt, a sensible pair of shoes and with hours of chat about the best way to navigate around the roadworks on the way back. God, but you don’t want to get stuck in a corner with them. Which was exactly the mistake Argentina made.”

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                              @Luigi welcome back mate.

                              There’s a template there for your mob. Will be interesting to see how they go against a rush defence pattern.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Luigi welcome back mate.

                                There’s a template there for your mob. Will be interesting to see how they go against a rush defence pattern.

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                                @ACT-Crusader They will kick even more drop goals. Not much the rush defence can do against that tactic.

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                                  One thing I noted is that when England put up the bomb, they just wanted to cause chaos - get beyond the ball and it is very hard for a defender to get a clear run at a jumping catch. Usual result was a knock on one way or the other and another set piece suited them just fine.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader They will kick even more drop goals. Not much the rush defence can do against that tactic.

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                                    @stodders said in RWC Week 1: England v Argentina:

                                    @ACT-Crusader They will kick even more drop goals. Not much the rush defence can do against that tactic.

                                    The Argies gave Ford way too much time and space to kick them, even the ones he wasn’t that deep in the pocket. He will still have to vary his depth because England still like to commit numbers.

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                                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                      One thing I noted is that when England put up the bomb, they just wanted to cause chaos - get beyond the ball and it is very hard for a defender to get a clear run at a jumping catch. Usual result was a knock on one way or the other and another set piece suited them just fine.

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                                      @KiwiPie South Africa have been perfecting that tactic for years

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                                        3 games -
                                        https://www.planetrugby.com/news/tom-curry-cops-ban-after-red-card-in-englands-rugby-world-cup-opener

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                                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                          3 games -
                                          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/tom-curry-cops-ban-after-red-card-in-englands-rugby-world-cup-opener

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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC Week 1: England v Argentina:

                                          3 games -

                                          2 cos he can do tackle school

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