Northland v The Bay
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Well i have tried hard this year not to criticise the refs when they are shit, as I know they have a hard job....
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Well i have tried hard this year not to criticise the refs when they are shit, as I know they have a hard job....
@taniwharugby said in Northland v The Bay:
Well i have tried hard this year not to criticise the refs when they are shit, as I know they have a hard job....
This guy was terrible. And TMO was no where to be seen. I never criticise refs but abysmal.
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@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
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Better team have won despite the poor officiating , that last ruck summed up the Taniwha effort , thats where the game was won at the breakdown , thought the effort was way down from the Harbour game
Matich summed up it well , calls did’nt go there way but you cant keep putting yourself in those situations
Congratulations to the Bay and best wishes for the playoffs -
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
Plus in the lead up to your final try. TTT picks up the ball ( like he has all the time in the world ) our guy knocks his hand, he spills the ball forward and BOP get scrum. Our possession and we kick to corner.
That said BOP dominated but not really good enough to put us away.
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Some bad calls but Northland ask their defence to do too much volume each week. They keep fading at the end of games
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Some bad calls but Northland ask their defence to do too much volume each week. They keep fading at the end of games
@Duluth well said , just seen those pictures on too many occasions , expect a few players to be moved on before the 2024 season.
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We just make it so hard for ourselves, fading in and out so often, not sure our kicking game is up to what we were trying to achieve, plus we looked better when we spread it wider.
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@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
After the first replay I was hoping to see them cut to a hastily taken conversion to avoid a TMO review. But neither happened.
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@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
After the first replay I was hoping to see them cut to a hastily taken conversion to avoid a TMO review. But neither happened.
@Donsteppa said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
After the first replay I was hoping to see them cut to a hastily taken conversion to avoid a TMO review. But neither happened.
Conversions don't stop TMO reviews anymore
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@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
@kev said in Northland v The Bay:
@KiwiPie said in Northland v The Bay:
Some strange calls both ways - players look confused
That pass which was clearly forward from the hands and no TMO intervention. Rugby does itself no favours when it is so amateur.
I was very relieved when it wasn't reviewed and didn't really understand why it wasn't
After the first replay I was hoping to see them cut to a hastily taken conversion to avoid a TMO review. But neither happened.
@Donsteppa with the crowd booing the ref just stood resolutely with his back to the screen, got to admire his confidence/arrogance...
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The ARs, which I assume were local, didn't help Winter with some calls.
Northland got a penalty late in the 1st half for BOP offside at the lineout when the throw was clearly not straight. There was definitely doubt about Tua's try as well.
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The ARs, which I assume were local, didn't help Winter with some calls.
Northland got a penalty late in the 1st half for BOP offside at the lineout when the throw was clearly not straight. There was definitely doubt about Tua's try as well.
@Bovidae olsens throwing was poor again tonight.
Yea officials missed alot, some were not even little things, several howlers.
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The ARs, which I assume were local, didn't help Winter with some calls.
Northland got a penalty late in the 1st half for BOP offside at the lineout when the throw was clearly not straight. There was definitely doubt about Tua's try as well.
@Bovidae said in Northland v The Bay:
The ARs, which I assume were local, didn't help Winter with some calls.
Northland got a penalty late in the 1st half for BOP offside at the lineout when the throw was clearly not straight. There was definitely doubt about Tua's try as well.
Thought Tua’s try was ok. Not sure that BOP’s first try was ok. He was either part of the ruck and can’t pick it up, or he has to come from behind to pick it up and he was standing in front at all times.
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I usually try and avoid bagging refs, but this guy was dreadful, even if I were neutral I'd be shaking my head at some of his howlers. Forward passes, knock ons, obstructions.. the list goes on. We've had him before in a few matches and it seems he really doesn't like us much.. it's like a preconceived notion that he'll set out to blow us off the park everytime.
But... once again we were our own worst enemies, we shouldn't put ourselves in these positions to allow refs to stomp all over us. I felt that, bar the breakdown area, BOP weren't that crash hot, and we should have really put them away tonight.
I could see the ideas we had planned with kicking for territory etc, but the kicks were generally straight down the throats of BOP receivers, or poorly executed box kicks. On the few occasions we got it to the edges we looked good, it just didn't happen enough. We also gave possession away easily, and this put too much pressure on our defence which in turn caused us to run out of gas. Same crap different week.
On a positive you can see what template Leslie is trying to build, and with some tweaking to our personnel next season we could break the shackles somewhat and actually push for more victories on a consistent basis.
Still one more to go against Auckland, and I would hope we go out there and really stick it to them to finish on a high in what's been a below average season. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
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I usually try and avoid bagging refs, but this guy was dreadful, even if I were neutral I'd be shaking my head at some of his howlers. Forward passes, knock ons, obstructions.. the list goes on. We've had him before in a few matches and it seems he really doesn't like us much.. it's like a preconceived notion that he'll set out to blow us off the park everytime.
But... once again we were our own worst enemies, we shouldn't put ourselves in these positions to allow refs to stomp all over us. I felt that, bar the breakdown area, BOP weren't that crash hot, and we should have really put them away tonight.
I could see the ideas we had planned with kicking for territory etc, but the kicks were generally straight down the throats of BOP receivers, or poorly executed box kicks. On the few occasions we got it to the edges we looked good, it just didn't happen enough. We also gave possession away easily, and this put too much pressure on our defence which in turn caused us to run out of gas. Same crap different week.
On a positive you can see what template Leslie is trying to build, and with some tweaking to our personnel next season we could break the shackles somewhat and actually push for more victories on a consistent basis.
Still one more to go against Auckland, and I would hope we go out there and really stick it to them to finish on a high in what's been a below average season. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
@J77 yea, we just leave too much in the hands of the ref.
Both teams were average, but for most of it we were probably less average...
Our accuracy at the breakdown was poor, although several turnovers or pivotal moments at breakdowns were made by someone offside.
But our accuracy at the breakdown is baffling given the players we have there, often seemed to leave one side exposed.
Huge drop off from our top 2 9s too, similarly Moulds is clear our best 2, even his throwing was good last night, highlighted by us losing 2 out of the 1st 3 after he went off.
Our scrum was pretty solid most of the night, although Rebolo got moved a number of times and ref was a bit inconsistent here as the 2nd half his whistle went in his pocket for infringements we got done for.
Oddly a couple of times ref blew up advantage well before he gave either team a chance for it to play out, but the one time he did let it run after looking to blow it, Murray scored a sensational try.
Anywhos, this is Northland...
Motm poll, I'll update totals later
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6308/northland-motm-v-the-bay
